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Floating Forum #3: Outside Talks and Events

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As you attend outside events over the course of the semester, which you think are interestingly related to our interdisciplinary discussions of gender and sexuality, please describe them in this forum: in what ways do they intersect, expand on or challenge the ideas we are talking about in class?

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2 Talks 2 Late

But later is better than never. Or at least I keep telling myself that.

I went to see Kate Bornstein at Villanova and I listened to Lynn Morgan's talk on "Reproductive Rights and Wrongs in Contemporary Latin America".

Kate Bornstein was refreshing. Interesting. Vivacious. And her boots were fabulous. I wasn't exactly sure what I should expect. I mean, I read her work so I kind of pinned her down into the category of writer and gave her no wiggle room to be/do anything else. So when I sat in the audience, staring at this chic older female writer sitting on a stool drinking a soda (it was diet), the term 'performance' had me baffled. I was wondering if she was going to read poetry or some of her works, or start dancing and singing. It really didn't cross my mind (though it should have, I love spoken word) that it was neither. It was informal, it was engaging and it was eclectic. I watched photos pass on a screen, I listened to her describe her life as a phone sex operator and I listened to her bash Scientology. She was so convincing that I found myself take a piece of her with me as I left. Not just the get out of jail free card, but a piece of Kate. It feels really wonderful when something moves you so much that in your change in position, there is also a change in your weight because you're actually carrying a piece of that which moved you.

One of the things that really stuck out to me was her discussing how she learned to 'talk like a woman'. I think I almost forgot that while she looked like a woman, she wouldn't really sound like one. Except she did. Until she dropped her voice down to it's natural tone. And I found myself thinking about her gender switch again. I finally let it sink in that she didn't feel like she could be herself with a penis and that she loves fashion (she must, her clothes were so enviable) but did she really have to change how she spoke? As we say in Brooklyn, "is it really that serious"? I know plenty of women with voices as deep as a man's and men with voices softer than talcum.  So I wondered, where was the line between Kate being "Kate" and Kate as performer of society's well-established female stereotypes?

Before seeing Kate's performance, I went to a talk by Lynn Morgan. My mother's family (the side of the family I grew up with) is from Panama so I thought it was incredibly enriching to learn about reproductive rights (and wrongs) in Latin America. She began by asking us what we thought of when we heard the term "reproductive rights" and the consensus was abortion. It was crazy how we all forgot that reproductive rights weren't always abortion rights; it was also the right to reproduce. But what was on my mind, and I am sure others, was that fertility issues were the rich woman's problem; there weren't many poor Latinas trying to get pregnant. What I found most interesting was that there were countries in Latin America that had high quality of life ratings yet women weren't allowed to take birth control or have abortions. One of the things that I took with me, (yes, always carrying something) was the topic of men reproductive rights. Do they have any? Should they have any?

 

 

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Kate Bornstein at Villanova?!?

So I went to Kate Borenstein performance at Villanova, and to be honest I'm still not sure whether I have positive or negative feelings towards it. The best description of it would be Laryssa's caricature claim about Bornstein's development of her character, but extreme. While it was a great performance, it's intensity left me shell-shocked in a way and I'm not sure if it was in a good way. There were extreme's in that there emotional highs and lows but no in between. In Kate Bornstein's autobiographical performance she really delved into her past in a surreal way. I think she was trying to shock/ educate the audience particularly it was Villanova. She definitely pushed me into uncomfortable places, that I am still trying to work out. I feel this was intentional to allude to the experience of exploring one's gender- it's a continuing process asking and re-asking and answering and re-answering questions about your life. 

Oak's picture

Two Outside Events, Two Transwomen, Two very Different People

Monica Roberts

I was excited about Monica Roberts. "A blogger," I thought, "must be someone who's with it, with the modern era."

However, I was rather disappointed. She started off by saying "You may wonder why I'm here today." I leaned forward to listen, expecting at least a condescending, "You young people need to hear what I have to say," or "I have this specific cause I'm interested in right now that you need to hear about." Instead... she started listing awards she had won. I waited for her to get to the point, but from there she went straight into the body of her speech. To me, this said that she was only there because we had paid her to be there, because we wanted her, because she was super-awesome. This was a turn-off, right at the beginning.

However, she did have a few good points. The one I was most interested in was her anger at the lack of "T" representation on the boards of major LGTB organizations. I hadn't known this was an issue.

Kate Bornstein

Kate Bornstein, on the other hand, blew my mind. I want to be her when I grow up. She was so certain of her ideals, yet so willing to discuss and clarify them, and consider the ideas of others. And she liked the idea of a woman's college! Her visit was great.

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Rather late...

Well, here I am... another person who forgot to post about the outside events I attended this semester! I actually went to quite a few that "counted," so here are my thoughts on a few which I found particularly relevant and interesting both in relation to class and on a personal level.

I went to see Slippery Slope back in September, which I found both entertaining and useful in thinking about sex work and the porn industry. I actually ended up writing a paper about the movie for my sociology class in which I analyzed it through the lens of symbolic interactionism (a theory which basically emphasizes the importance of meanings that people develop about objects/people/etc. in their lives based on their social interactions/experiences, and that they act based on those meanings... basically, the punchline is that people act toward situations rather than toward systems). I thought a lot about how Gillian, the main character, is so confident in her feminist ideals and ways of making sure her relationship is equal, and yet she finds out that her views (which my professor used the term "functionalism" to describe in her comments on my paper--basically, a simplified view of how people fit into systems and act based on them) are actually quite limited. Through becoming a part of the porn industry herself, she is able to learn about the kinds of circumstances that actually lead people to do that kind of work... both through interacting with the women who work on the movies, and through being put in a similar (though obviously different in many ways) position herself. There were a lot of interesting layers to the movie, such as the role dynamics between Gillian and her husband, the role of Michaela (the female producer who runs things) as a woman who uses her sexuality as power, and Gillian's sexual awakening. I thought it was great--lots to enjoy and laugh at on a surface level, but plenty of depth as well. Seeing the movie, and thinking about it through writing my paper, informed my thinking about sex work when we got to that part of the class later in the semester. It made me think about how hard it is to judge the moral "rightness" of something like sex work when there are so many different reasons people wind up doing it, and when those involved do not necessarily view it as degrading. Who are we to judge their lives for them, especially without having been in the same place ourselves?

Another event that I attended, which was not mentioned in class, but which I found extremely interesting and significant in my own thinking about gender and sexuality, was one that kjmason already mentioned below: Andrea Gibson's spoken word performance. I've done a lot of thinking over the last couple of years about the interplay between gender/feminism and artistic expression, and I find spoken word poetry to be such an interesting medium for conveying feelings and ideas. There were so many moments in her performance when there was some turn of words that was just so tight and beautiful that the audience could feel it in a way that theory and academic writing just can't quite convey... and in a way that written poetry is capable of creating, but it was really in the hearing it, being in that moment and hearing and feeling the rhythm of the words... that gave the words even more meaning on both an intellectual and visceral level. On the level of content, her work covered so many different issues that people often do not approach, or may not relate in the ways she did... so many of her poems touched on painful experiences of rape, sexual abuse, inequality based on sexual orientation, the country's current war and its effects on veterans, religion, etc. I went to Andrea Gibson's performance before we went to Kate Bornstein's performance, but hearing Kate call herself an "artist in service of activism" rather than an activist has made me think about Andrea Gibson's work in the context of activism as well. Andrea does identify as an activist (the splash page for her website says "andrea gibson::poet::activist"), and I do see her work as activism. She tours frequently, reading her work that integrates the personal and political and which has such a power that it really touches people and raises their awareness about the issues she reads about, potentially inciting them to take action, or even just to have their own realizations about their lives and/or the larger political/social context they are a part of.

I bought two of her albums (Yellowbird and Swarm), and two of my favorite poems are Blue Blanket (http://www.andreagibson.org/poems/poems_blueblanket.html) and Dive (http://www.andreagibson.org/poems/poems_dive.html), though I think all of her work is excellent!

Since I am woefully deficient of forum postings, I figured I might as well talk about one more event: Suzan-Lori Parks' reading. I almost didn't go to this one since I wasn't familiar with her work, and have found over the last couple years that I tend to enjoy readings more when I am familiar with the poet's work, or at least know a bit of his/her biography beforehand... but after my other professor urged us to go, too, I decided to give it a shot anyway. I am so glad I did! As others have mentioned, her "reading" consisted more of her talking about how she got where she did, and offering advice to the audience, all of which I thought was great. A couple of points that particularly stuck with me were her suggestion that we "entertain all of our far out ideas," and her advice that if a person who we greatly respect offers us a piece of advice that jives with what we're feeling, that we should take it... but if it does not jive with what's in us, that we can let their advice go. Basically, she seemed to emphasize having confidence in your own convictions and running with your ideas instead of shooting them down before they have a chance to develop. This really resonated with me, since those are things I have a really hard time doing on a regular basis. I thought that her way of presenting all of this was interesting (with the sound effects, hand gestures, etc.), and it all really stuck with me, as well... when I think of the things she said, I also think of the gestures she made, and that seems to add something to it... makes it stick on a level beyond just cognitive understanding.

Overall, I am glad that we were required to attend events for class, and I found that I ended up going to things just because I wanted to anyway... but I liked being made aware of what was going on, and these outside events definitely added to my experience & thinking in this class and others!

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Kate Bornstein

I'm a little embarrassed that I never actually posted about Kate Bornstein, seeing as I was so ridiculously excited about actually meeting her. Anyway, now I'll post.

Kate Bornstein. I remember a while back, in class, adalke mentioned something about whether Kate was calling for the end of identities, and I didn't think that she was. And I maintain that she doesn't; she mentioned at the informal conversation about how love and respect and magic happens when identities come together. She said that we can band together for identity, but for politics, we must triage. (Violence against women and children is the most pressing issue anyone faces.)

I thought the informal conversation was really interesting. Kate Bornstein seemed...unafraid of being blunt or politically incorrect or controversial, which was refreshing. Occasionally, that led to having to clarify herself when people misunderstood what she meant (when she said, "Gay marriage, excuse me, sucks" or "F*** allies. . . . We want members" or, in response to a question about the older/younger division on the word 'queer,' "We're gonna die real soon. Don't worry about it."). But I think that added something to the conversation because it meant that it wasn't really rehearsed. It was more of an actual conversation than a speech or performance.

In her performance at Villanova, I think my favorite part was the part about coming out to her mom. Telling her mom that she was her baby, her little boy, the daughter she never had, and that she loved her. I just sort of connected with that. It felt very truthful. There were other parts that were more scandelous, more outrageous, but that part was just honest and real. On a separate note, I also liked the part about how "'I' has no gender. Neither does 'you.'" It made me think of lol cats ("I haz no gender!"). :) 

rae's picture

Sherry Ortner--Almost three months overdue

I was putting together my portfolio for class, and I realized that I never actually posted about any of the outside events I went to, so I'm going to do so now. Better late than never, right? 

I went to Sherry Ortner's talk about indie documentaries, I think it was. It was interesting, but it was directly related to gender and sexuality. She mentioned that idependent producers are criticial to indie films, and that most are from the PMC (professor managerial class), unlike the more directors and filmmakers. She said that everyone knows the educational backgrounds of everyone, and indie producers give cultural capital to a film.

Looking back, this sort of reminds me of Felice Picano's conception of education as social class. From what Ortner said, education and class seem very tied together. The indie producers generally have good educations and are from the PMC class, and the cultural capital they give to a film seems related to class as well. Also, Ortner said that the professional managerial class typically supports indie films (the actual people, not just PMC producers). It seems to be a bit of a cycle, PMC producers making films for PMC people to watch. What is particularly interesting is that Ortner said that indie films have an emphasis on destabilizing and disturbing class. I find this interesting because it seems to be people of one (rather privileged) class creating movies for people of their own class, and I think that that might sometimes lead to just further solidifying those classes.

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Lynda Barry, long overdue

So I did write about Kate Bornstein's visit in the forum for that week in November, but I never got around to talking about Barry's talk and 2-day workshop which I attended. More than being incredibly generative, I thought her workshop was almost exceptionally accessible. To me, she really articulated the anxieties I felt as far as writing went about creating something that is "worthy" of being read. In other words, she treated writing as a biological function, as something everyone can do and absolutely should do because it is as imperative and simple (maybe even involuntary) as breathing. I loved that she made mistakes valuable, truly valuable. It wasn't at all an empty relativist approach in the vein of "everything has meaning and value to somebody or if you just look at it from a certain perspective." No. Hers was a point blank insistence on the fact that the act of creating something (especially through personal experience/memory and recollection) necessarily has intrinsic value. Like Anne, I was struck by her assertion that we do not have experiences and then write about them but rather WRITE TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE. That was pretty mind-blowing. It valued the labor of writing (and thinking) in a way I'd never seen valued before. And that was particularly powerful.

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my favourite outside talk

i went to mark doty's poetry reading because i wanted to, not because it was for class. i also didn't exactly realize it was a poetry reading. i actually made that mistake multiple times that day. before dinner i went to a philosophy talk that i thought was on "transcendental consciousness". actually i only gave the flyer a cursory glimpse and thought i saw consciousness and was psyched. it was actually on "transcendental conscience", very different, i just apparently can't read when i'm nerdily stoked about philosophy. then after dinner, i went to what it thought was a talk about aids, not a poetry reading. though my first misguided talk of the day was a dissappointment, mark doty made up for it. his poetry ended up being so much better than just someone talking/reading about aids. i loved his poetry, and i loved listening to him read it. sometimes i'm not a fan of poetry readings because i feel like they fall too much into exactly what you stereotype something called a 'poetry reading' to be- you know, berets, bongos and organic coffee all wrapped up in hipster pants. but this was different. it was about his partner (i use this word with my whole own set of reservations on what the people in a committed but gay relationship are to eachother, partner sounding like a law firm, but i'll spare the rant and just use it for the sake of the story) getting aids, dealing with aids, and then dying of aids, but it was also just about human emotions in general. being gay wasn't the point, sometimes it mattered because people weren't willing to deal with aids in the mostly straight community where they first lived, and sometimes it didn't matter, it was just people caring about other people. i loved it, i got one of his books to read over break when i once again have that illusive creature called 'spare time' and i can't wait.

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Confessions, No not like Usher!

 I’m also realizing that it is the end of the semester and I didn’t post about the two outside of class events I went to. First off, I’d like to say I went to both of these events because I wanted to and the fact that they related to the course was also excellent! 

The first performance I went to was that of Staceyann Chin. She read a lot from her new memoir, The Other Side of Paradise.  She read about checking out her “cocobread” in the outhouse when she was a young girl, putting on her very first “Stay-free” pad upside down and trying to connect with her biological father. I really took a lot from her stories. They all had this beautiful innocence to them and they were just overflowing with impressions of her childhood in Jamaica. I actually have a bit of a confession; I wanted to get a feel of who Staceyann Chin was before I went to see some poet on a Friday night. So, I found some of her poetry on youtube. Namely, “Feminist or a Womanist”. By the time I went to see her performance, I knew all the words to “Feminist or a Womanist.” Possibly my favourite part of the evening was when she apologized to the men in the audience, at the end of her show, for potentially making them very uncomfortable with all her talk of dykery and periods, she followed this up by a quick pitch for any potential sperm donors among the men since she and her partner are trying to have a baby. 

 

 

The other performance I went to this semester was an Andrea Gibson spoken word performance. I’m not the most emotional person, and even if I am having a moment, I like to keep it to myself. Well, Andrea Gibson had me crying, laughing, all over my emotions…and strangest of all I was fairly comfortable with all of this. She transitioned from piece to piece with short stories of awkward happenings that made me realize how well she would fit in at Bryn Mawr. I was really surprised by the way she used metaphor in her poetry. It was refreshing how I wouldn’t commonly relate the things that she did, but somehow when they were paired not only did it work, but it was really beautiful. There were two in particular that stuck with me, “Ashes” and “I do” both deal with Gender and Sexuality within the limitations of society. I linked both of these poems. Please listen to them.

 

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talks and such

I know it's the end of the semester, so my comments on my outside talks are delayed, but regardless, I went to see Sherry Ortner talk about flim, watched the screening of Slippery Slope, and went to Kate Bornstein's performance at Villanova.  Sherry Ortner, of course, made an impact on me.  I don't know if anyone else ever feels this, but sometimes when I get to know a person I am baffled that they can really exist in this world just like that.  There have been people around Bryn Mawr that I've felt like that, and Sherry Ortner was like that too.  Her world was so academic and when she spoke, it sounded so academic.  I guess I'm being judgmental, and maybe she had a whole other side to her I didn't see.  But from her talk and her conversation in our class, I felt so disconnected from her.  I never want my life to be so theoretical - spending time writing essays about women and film.  But maybe that's what her passions are - and I shouldn't judge.  I wasn't overly impressed by her talk on film that I went to.  I always imagine speakers as being engaging and so full of ideas that they are excited to speak to an audience.  Sherry Ortner quiet clearly read from a piece of paper.  I'm not a giant fan of public speaking, but I know that reading directly from a paper is a no-no.  It's fine if she is deathly afraid of public speaking, but then I don't think she should volunteer to do it.

Slippery Slope was entertaining.  It's especially interesting to think about in light of the sex work unit we just did.  Is producing a porn movie have the same affect as being a porn star?  Or is it somehow worse because you are enabling a woman's body to be expoited?  I know the point of the film was that porn was just actresses and actors doing a job.  There was a scene when the main character looked at the two main porn actresses and one had a baby and one was (maybe?) reading a book and she realized that they are just people.  I think I would be able to produce a porn movie even less than being in a porn movie.  I know it's a woman's right to chose what her work is, but I would feel as if I was perpuating the cycle of abuse to a woman's body by producing a film that could potentially do just that.  The film was interesting though, because it did portray a porn movie in a way that isn't bad, or disgusting, or perverted, like porn is usually seen as.

Then, of course, there was Kate Bornstein.  I realize, looking back at the semester in this class, that I learned a lot.  I didn't agree with a lot of what we did, I didn't like a few of the speakers I saw, and a lot of the time I was frustrated.  But I did learn about a whole different world that I didn't know existed, and whether I chose to participate in it or not in the future, at least I saw it and learned a little about it.  I wasn't a giant fan of Kate Bornstein's performance, just like I wasn't a giant fan of her book.  But thinking about it, her life goal isn't to please everyone.  In fact, it probably isn't to please anybody at all.  She is just being whatever she is, and writing about what she thinks the world needs to hear.  And even though I don't like it, I think I've come to respect that she does it.  Because it does help people.  And I probably shouldn't have been so openly cynical about it.  (I apologize to any I might have offended).

So, there it is - the three talks I went to and a little post-class summary of how I feel.

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Julia Alvarez and her Style

I found i really, really enjoyed Julia Alvarez plainly and simply without the music. I could not understand the purpose of having her poems sang out in a really crude manner. i say crude because although it was opera like, it didn't feel like the music gave the poem the same emotion it illustrates when it is just read aloud (at least in my opinion). i could see how it should have correlated with the flow of the poem's form, but it just didn't attract my emotion as much as Alvarez did when she read them aloud.

Alvarez, was very down to earth. She read poems, that although depicted the very essence of woman's oppressive characteristics, told the other story. The story that tells of these "womanly" and thus inferior characteristics as a willing part of the lives of many woman. To me, it felt as though she viewed such "demeaning" acts such as folding laundry as a memory in which she held her most treasured beliefs and sentiments toward her family.

I mean to me, it just feels like feminism has gone too far into the ocean, where it can't see anymore. It can't see that maybe some women don't want to be "more" than what they are. Maybe more is possible but it is not wanted. Maybe there are women out there who want to be the stereotypical mother and wife. I'm not saying that this is true for everyone, but i just feel like feminism has taken it's toll on society so far that it does it's job as well as contradicts it. It disinvites ALL women from enjoying a life as such, because it puts a negative spin on it that makes being a loving house wife and mother a tool used in the manipulation of women. 

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Julia Alvarez and the Household Arts

 Last night I attended Julia Alvarez' performance and talk at BMC.  The first part of this much anticipated event consisted of listening to some of Alvarez' poems set to music.  To be completely honest I really disliked this part of the performance.  While the music itself was pleasant to listen to I wasn't too fond of the lyrical portion of the performance.  When reading poetry I like to openly question the poet's interpretation of his/her work.  In doing so I am free to interpret the work from various perspectives.  However, when I heard Alvarez' poetry set to music it was clear to me that only one perspective was being presented.

On another note, I truly enjoyed having the opportunity to hear Alvarez give a reading of some of her favorite poems.  Of all the poems that she read I was really intrigued by Alvarez' series of poems that focused on "the household arts."  It was interesting to see how household chores were such a significant part of Alvarez' childhood.  By discussing the importance of knowing how to perform certain household tasks (i.e. ironing, folding laundry etc.) Alvarez was in a way granting homemakers a sense of agency.  It became clear to me that Alvarez truly values housework as a medium for expressing love for one's family.  Overall, I was particularly inspired by the manner in which Alvarez incorporated memories from her past (her childhood in the Domincan Republic and her life as an "all American girl" in the U.S.) into her literary works.  Alvarez' recollection of her past was portrayed in such a touching and beautiful way that I look forward to actually reading some of work over break! 

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Julia Alavrez' poetry set to music:

Click on the click below if you want to hear one of Julia Alvarez' poems set to music: www.haverford.edu/news/files/Alvarez-1.mp3 

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More on the Household Arts...

 I also found Julia Alvarez’s poetry compelling because of its explicit invocation of traditionally “feminine” activities and interests. When she told us that she would be reading poems about folding laundry and sewing dresses, I didn’t know quite what to think, particularly because I feel that so often the work of women authors become relegated strictly to female readers. While men and women read the Great Male Authors of the canon of literature, I feel that most female writers are read exclusively by women. (I mean, if both men and women can read Phillip Roth and John Updike, then why shouldn’t men read Jane Austen or Virginia Woolf?) I loved the poetry that she read and I felt that just as she was invoking these activities to comment on their important role in shaping her identity and also restricting it. I also think that it’s interesting that a similar argument about audience could be mapped onto her racial and culture identification, as a Dominican American. I think that literature and poetry is a space that still retains a sense of an “Old Boys Club” and that anyone who does not fit that description becomes a voice that only certain identity categories can read and relate to – women, Latino Americans, etc. I think that we’re trying to open up a space in literature for all voices but its still a work in progress.

Sorry, that whole tangent moved away from Julia Alvarez herself, but in the context of this class and being an English major it got me thinking about all this other stuff… 

 

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Kate Bornstein

So as I have already shared the the weekly forum, I went to see Kate Bornstein's performance but was unable to see her in the smaller discussion earlier that morning.

As I have already commented on her and her performance in the forum I will try not to be (too) redundant in my review. What interested me most about Kate and her performance was how open she was. She went into depth about many of her personally deemed character flaws, admitting to being an alcoholic, being an anorexic, having an obsessive personality, being an agnostic, having been a scientologist, and having been an evangelical christian. She joked that the christian part was the most embarassing to admit.

However, unlike many speakers and performers, she admitted her flaws and flawed actions, but did not seem to feel the need to either justify them or to distract from them by bringing up any of her more admiral choices and attributes. Basically, she laid it all out there for us to see. She has definitely grown and changed, and there were some legitimate reasons (excuses if you will) for some of the things she discussed. But it seems that she is neither ashamed of her past nor particularly proud of her present. This is very uncharacteristic in a famous performer. It seems that she actually practices what she preaches, which is to do anything that will make you stay alive. It would appear like sometimes she did that and made a lot of big mistakes. Maybe she's making a mistake now, but it's keeping her alive, and that's her goal.  Kate has gone through a lot of transitions throughout her life, and would probably say that this is because there is no right answers. There is no one gender, no one sexuality, and no one set of behavior which is the "right" one, and there may not be any "right" answers.

So although to some Kate may come across as someone who has still not found her way, I found her to be set very much in the right direction...no where. 

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Slippery Slope...again

Like ebock and alice I did have not responded to "Slippery Slope."

So I really liked the film on my own without any deeper thought put into it. I would recommend it to a friend and would definitely see it again. It was funny, somewhat meaningful, and the story moved along at a good pace. For those who did not see it, I'll give a quick summary.

The film was about a feminist who is trying to quickly raise money to get herself and her new very feminist film to the Cannes Festival, to which it has been accepted. She is a married woman, and she and her husband live about as close to an equal marriage as is possible. They have a housework time clock where each member clocks his/her hours of chores, and by the end of the week the hours should be equal. They also tries in all areas of their life not to gender stereotype, and function in a harmonious yet semi-complicated manner. While her husband is hoping to start trying for a baby (as both their parents encourage), she is busy at work as a film maker and activist. However, when she gets the call informing her that she is invited to the Cannes film festival, she goes to get the film reel, and finds out that it will be a large sum of money. She tries in vain many different avenues to attain the money she needs (asks her parents, tries to get a new job, considers being a participant in paid experiments), but ultimately ends up meeting up with an old friend who gives her a lead. An old actor friend tells her he's involved in the porn industry, and that she should take a look at the work being done. The film ends up really taking a slippery slope into a humorous story of misunderstandings, attitude adjustment, and ultimately determination. 

  So the movie is obviously a comedy and I definitely appreciated the humorous events. However, what I found to be the most interesting in the story was the equal marriage. On the one hand I thought it got a little ridiculous. A time clock for household chores? Sex life turning into a debate instead of a pleasure? Political correctness all the time? I don't think I could live that way. But on the other hand, the idea was well executed and gave a good image of how such an arrangement would work. There would be no underlying resentments, no arguments about everyday things like chores, and no inequality. It almost sounds utopic. I would argue, though, that a true marriage based on love should be able to do these things without all the knitty gritty. I think a balance can be worked out without having perfect inequality. Maybe we should bend the gender rules, or even break them, but I think maybe sometimes a certain person may be more suited to certain things, and this shouldn't be a problem. Either way, I found the idea intriguing and I thought it was well executed in the film.

Overall I would recommend this movie, it's really funny!

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Slippery Slope

 Like ebock, I realized I never posted about seeing that film, "Slippery Slope," so I'm going to do so now. Sorry!

To me, the film was mainly a source of entertainment. I felt like it didn't really have a strong message about the porn industry- or at least whatever message the director was trying to convey was hidden under lots of humour so it was hard to take seriously. If there was a positive message that the film enforced it would be that not all porn stars are these helpless beings that lack agency. Some (if not many) are in control of their selves and embrace their sexuality. Coming from a class where we talked about sex work a lot, none of this was new to me so perhaps this is why the film had less of an effect.
That said, I did really enjoy it. I liked the way it was filmed and the quirky relationships between characters. I just wish it delved more into sex work issues than merely providing a humorous film that skimmed the surface of those issues.
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more belated slippery slope

i agree with alice about 'slippery slope' - i enjoyed it, i laughed, and in the end i would recommend it and maybe watch it again. however,  i also didn't see the real message. it ended up making me feel mockery toward the main character's feminism, which may have been somewhat purposeful, i mean, an equality time clock?! at the same time, she validated the porn industry somewhat, but i don't think i was ever quite so uptight about the idea of sex work, and that there are people who do it, as the main character, so i suppose some of the revelation was lost on me and felt purely humourous. so in the end, as a fun comedy, i thought it was good, but as far as the exposure and discussion of feminist/gender themes, it wasn't all that new, and it was definitely hard to take any serious message out of all the humour.

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Kate Bornstein

 One of the parts I enjoyed most about Kate Bornstein's performance was how she blatantly stated that she is neither man, nor woman. Often times when we talk about transgender issues, I feel like we always fall into the same gender binary that we seem to always be fighting. You know, with language such as m to f and f to m. It was nice to finally have someone be completely comfortable with not defining themselves through one gender- or rather, feeling like they had to transition from one gender to another.

I was also intrigued by the performance being at villanova. I'll try not to stereotype too much here, but i wonder how the villanova students reacted to Kate's performance. If they were not comfortable with her directly asking them if they were part of the GLBTQ group, what did they think of her being so blatant about it? I wonder if it's one of those things where its ok for YOU to be this way but not for me...
Also, did anyone notice that Kate Bornstein's performance at Villanova was brought by the "women's studies" program there? I wonder how their syllabus and courses offered differ/are similar to ours.
Lastly, I loved how honest Kate was, especially when she was listing all her "problems": alcoholic, anorexic, depressed, cutter, suicidal, etc. Surprisingly, I was not uncomfortable when she was talking about it- even when she went into great detail. The only thing that really bothered me was when she was talking about the alternatives to suicide and she said it was better to starve yourself, than be suicidal. To me any type of self-harm shouldn't be promoted and there shouldn't be ones that are more tolerated than others. I don't know...just a thought. Overall though, i really enjoyed the performance! And it was nice to observe a campus other than in the tri-co for once.
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kate borenstein

i apologise for posting this so late but imy computer was spazzing and well now i can.

the one thing about kate borenstein that really struck me was when she said 'do whatever it takes, to make this life worth living... just, dont be mean to anyone' - basically, she said that we should/could do anything at all to find a reason to stay alive. be it self harm, be it escaping be it anything, if it gives us reason to stay alive, its worth it.

and this made me think - what would make my life worth living? and, is it worth it to keep searching, pushing, struggling to find that one thing?

i love that kate is so comfortable with  the fact that she is constantly reinventing herself, because, lets be honest, all of us are. we might not be defining and redefining our gender and sexuality but we're all changing. every day. and with that change in thought, opinion or emotion, we're constantly reinventing ourselves. and that change is growth, it doesnt need to be positive or negative. theres no need to hide it or mask it. we can still be who we are whilst we change. there can be solidity and unity of character expressed through fluctualtion and fragmentation.

i liked the fact taht the talk was at villanova. it was comfortable despite that. the only time my mind woke up and realised that we werent at bryn mawr was when she asked how any people in the audience were gender variant and only a few hands went up. i think that this wasnt because they werent gender variant people in the audience but maybe because not as many people were comfortable in their gender/sexuality. i thanked bryn mawr a little at this moment, because it made me appreciate the openess and comfort that is readily available at bmc.

all in all, i really enjoyed her talk. i think there were times when she tried too hard to get a message across/to connect with the audience and that at these times her message got dissolved in her effort. however, the rest of her performance was empowering and striking enough that it could afford to lose that tiny bit.

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Rape: Towards a Moral Ontology of the Body

This past weekend I attended the Roland Altherr Memorial Symposium in Philosophy at Haverford.  This year's talk was given by Professor Jay Bernstein from The New School for Social Research in NYC.  Below are some notes that I took during Professor Bernstein's talk:

-people not principals are morally wrong

-rape puts the victim in a state of existential helplessness 

-the rape survivor develops PTSD due to a lost of trust in the world (1/3-1/2 of female rape victims develop PTSD)

-the body serves as a necessary vehicle/image to the soul

-the intrinsic value of a person is destroyed via rape- we value ourselves according to how others view us- therefore, we are dependent on the social recognition of others

-a master/slave dichotomy develops during rape

 

I personally was very disturbed by Professor Berstein's focus on women as the only victims of rape.  When I asked Professor Bernstein about men as rape victims he replied by stating that men become feminized once they are raped.  Feminization in these terms is very problematic.  By arguing that men become more like women after being raped, Bernstein is in actuality assigning femininity an inferior value.   

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Slippery Slope

Like ebock, I realized I never posted about seeing that film, "Slippery Slope," so I'm going to do so now. Sorry!

To me, the film was mainly a source of entertainment. I felt like it didn't really have a strong message about the porn industry- or at least whatever message the director was trying to convey was hidden under lots of humour so it was hard to take seriously. If there was a positive message that the film enforced it would be that not all porn stars are these helpless beings that lack agency. Some (if not many) are in control of their selves and embrace their sexuality. Coming from a class where we talked about sex work a lot, none of this was new to me so perhaps this is why the film had less of an effect.

That said, I did really enjoy it. I liked the way it was filmed and the quirky relationships between characters. I just wish it delved more into sex work issues than merely providing a humorous film that skimmed the surface of those issues.

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Transcending Gender

One of the parts I enjoyed most about Kate Bornstein's performance was how she blatantly stated that she is neither man, nor woman. Often times when we talk about transgender issues, I feel like we always fall into the same gender binary that we seem to always be fighting. You know, with language such as m to f and f to m. It was nice to finally have someone be completely comfortable with not defining themselves through one gender- or rather, feeling like they had to transition from one gender to another.

I was also intrigued by the performance being at villanova. I'll try not to stereotype too much here, but i wonder how the villanova students reacted to Kate's performance. If they were not comfortable with her directly asking them if they were part of the GLBTQ group, what did they think of her being so blatant about it? I wonder if it's one of those things where its ok for YOU to be this way but not for me...

Also, did anyone notice that Kate Bornstein's performance at Villanova was brought by the "women's studies" program there? I wonder how their syllabus and courses offered differ/are similar to ours.

Lastly, I loved how honest Kate was, especially when she was listing all her "problems": alcoholic, anorexic, depressed, cutter, suicidal, etc. Surprisingly, I was not uncomfortable when she was talking about it- even when she went into great detail. The only thing that really bothered me was when she was talking about the alternatives to suicide and she said it was better to starve yourself, than be suicidal. To me any type of self-harm shouldn't be promoted and there shouldn't be ones that are more tolerated than others. I don't know...just a thought. Overall though, i really enjoyed the performance! And it was nice to observe a campus other than in the tri-co for once.

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self-harm

hm. i...i agree that starving oneself is not a good thing to do. but i think that (at least in her book Hello, Cruel World) Kate isn't really promoting starving oneself--at least not in the sense of being like "hey, everyone, starving yourself is a perfectly fine thing to do--go do it." i think the real message is that you should do whatever you need to do in order to not kill yourself (preferably as long as it doesn't hurt others).

and i think that there are different levels of self-harm and that some are worse than others. suicide is final. if you kill yourself, that's the end. (let's not get into questions of whether people go to heaven or whatnot--at least your life as you know it here on earth is over.) starving oneself is not a great thing to do. it can be fatal. but that's the thing--it can be fatal, not it always is fatal. and in her book, Kate makes it clear that starving oneself is a very dangerous thing to do. i think the message is that if starving yourself for a time is going to keep you from intentionally killing yourself immediately, then you should do whatever you need to in order to keep from directly killing yourself. one step at a time.

starving yourself...it's something that can be overcome. i'm not saying that it'll be easy, but it's a hell of a lot more possible than overcoming death. yes, it can lead to dying, and that's a very real and terrifying possibility, but there's more time to try to stop it.

i think her point is just, if the only thing that will keep you from outright killing yourself is skipping meals, or cutting yourself, or doing something else like that, then do what it takes to keep yourself alive.

some quotes from her book Hello Cruel World: "Cutting yourself is a valid alternative to killing yourself if you feel it is your least self-harming option, but it can quickly spiral out of control. If you're cutting--or if you're thinking about it--it doesn't make you a bad person. But what's your reason for cutting? To heal? To feel? To punish? There are other, safer ways to do all these things. Please do not start cutting yourself if you can help it" (200).

"So bleed, if that's what it takes to keep you alive another day. If you're going to cut yourself, please try to cut with conscious self-love, never with self-loathing. If you're doing that, or you're cutting yourself out of anger or disgust, or you feel that it's getting out of control, see a doctor because you're in over your head and you need help" (201).

"Starving yourself is a valid alternative to killing yourself, but only just barely. If you're starving yourself either by not eating or by throwing up what you eat--or if you're thinking about doing that--it doesn't make you a bad person, but you do need medical help. Use another alternative in this book to stay alive while you stop doing this one. This alternative is the most deadly in the book" (206).

about anorexia, she say, "there is no real payoff except the few more days it gives you to find some other reason to stay alive" (207).

with all of the "self-harm" alternatives to suicide come the keywords "if you must." i think that she's really not taking the dangers lightly.

i also liked that she emphasizes that this (starving yourself, cutting yourself) doesn't make you a bad person. i think that sometimes, there can be such guilt associated with eating disorders and cutting and things like that (because they "shouldn't be tolerated" and are "bad"), that some people don't reach out for the help they need. and that's not a good thing.

i know i'm being really repetitive, and i'm sorry. i guess i'm just hoping that at least one of the ways i've tried to phrase what i feel will make sense. clearly, i feel strongly about this. and i'm all for more discussion with anyone who feels like responding; i'm not trying to shut down the conversation with my (admittedly really really long) post.

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Wow.

 Wow, Rae, thanks for this reply! Sorry I didn't see it till now. But I understand more of what she means. I didn't read "Hello, Cruel World" so I ended up interpreting things from the performance perhaps a bit differently. I'm happy to know that she doesn't take these "alternatives to suicide" lightly. I think the whole idea of doing something slightly less harmful than suicide as a therapeutic tool is kind of jarring because I am so used to people saying like, "go to a psychiatrist. talk about it. you will feel better" as opposed to finding an alternative. now that I see it in yours (and Kate Bornstein's perspective), it is a refreshing approach, while still a bit shocking. 

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back to lynda barry...

I also realized I hadn't done a posting for the Lynda Barry talk so... here we go!

Her idea of "deep play" is very interesting to me -- the concept of tapping into the creative resources that are unique to each person.

I work with Mary DiLullo, the filmmaker that was working with Lynda to record her experiences leading her writing workshops in different settings: here at Haverford, in ESL classes in Philadelphia, and in detention centers/prisons in Philadelphia.

I was commenting to Mary after she was telling me about how the classes went in the prisons and in the ESL class that it seems like Lynda taps into something that exists for everyone and really breaks down so many different types of barriers... She said the energy that Lynda had unleashed at all three workshops was incredible despite language barriers, socio/cultural barriers, etc.

I'm hoping we can revisit this when we get to What It Is... Maybe part of making a change for the better for the world is getting everyone to find a way to tap into that "state of deep play".... If we stop feeling so stifled and find small ways to keep our creative juices flowing maybe that could change the ways that we work/talk/communicate with one another...

 

this feels fitting at this point: Madonna "Express Yourself." I love Madonna.

www.youtube.com/watch

 

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incredible

Kate Bornstein gave possibly the most moving performance/talk that I think I've ever seen before. I actually started crying during the slide show that she put together about her mother.

I was also talking with justouttheasylum about how its so difficult to wrap our minds around the idea of someone changing continuously throughout their life. No matter how progressive we may believe we are, it is really hard to believe for some people that their personality, their values, their opinions, etc., are not entirely static.

Also -- here are some quotations from the performance that I thought were particularly striking...

 

"... shedding my identities like I shed those cells..."

 

"tell me what it's like to know...."

 

"what does it make me? I don't know how to be a girl and I sure dno't know how to be a boy, and it sure isn't worth all that trouble!"

 

"i need to learn to talk like a woman..."

 

"...tell me what you want me to be... " [in her story about herself as 'stormy']

 

 

cantaloupe's picture

really?

Isn't it super easy to imagine someone changing continuously throughout life?  Isn't that absolutely everyone?  Haven't you changed drastically since you were 10, and will probably be completely different by the time you are 30?  Whose personality, opinions, and values do you know that are completely static?  Because that person is probably the most boring, ignorant person ever.

 
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change

FYI I wasn't saying that I believe that people never change; I know that we change through out our lives. I was just saying that its incredible to see how much all parts of a person can change even from day to day, hour to hour etc.

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making people uncomfortable

 GASP: gender anarchist and sex positivism

straight homosexual

queer heterosexual

these were just some of the terms/ideas that kate bornstein threw out in her conversation today at bryn mawr. terms that are not used very widely, yet are innovative and different and real. i was so pleased i was able to see her both at bryn mawr and at villanova. it was interesting to really see her in am honest, straight forward relaxed setting versus her staged performance at villanova. she has so many ideas and lookouts on life, death, sex, and anything really. so much of what she said (like that the term "ally" was bullshit or gay marriage is not the right political fight) seemed so crazy but as she explained it, made so much sense. and her performance! what an actor. really. it wasn't a one person show, she embodied so many different characters, from different versions of herself from different phases of her life to her mother or a friend. she told it how it was and didn't hide any bit of herself from her audience. getting into graphic details of her surgery wasn't meant to scare anyone, it was meant to be honest. she knows not everyone will understand her, she knows it's not "the norm" to not define oneself as a man or as a woman. it was interesting in the setting itself too, at villanova. at one point she asked that if there was anyone in the audience who was gay, a lesbian, or bi to raise there hand... at first no hand went up and i'm pretty sure it was not because everyone in the audience was a straight heterosexual. then she added "and ally" and finally it was acceptable to raise a hand. it was just interesting to me to see people feel so uncomfortable to express themselves in that kind of environment. i mean students of the bi-co are not going to be living at bryn mawr and haverford their whole lives, there's a real world out there. a world where people aren't as open about telling people who they really are, a world where people will try to put you down and bully you, a world where even the slightest difference can make one an outlaw. but there she was, being completely frank about who she was and what she did to get there. and i was amazed.

 

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Yeah, I was shocked to see

Yeah, I was shocked to see how few people raised their hands.  I felt stunned for a few moments, the atmosphere was tense.  I was eager to see how a performance like that would play out at Villanova. Do those of you who went to both the conversation and the performance feel as though there were distinct differences between the two? Do you feel like she changed the type of audience interaction at all?

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wow wow wow!

 Kate Bornstein was amazing. She was honest and shocking and fascinating...I couldn't have asked for a better excuse to get out of my room and stop writing my essay. What's burning in my mind right now was the moment when Kate spoke about learning to talk like a woman; it was almost jolting for me, I can't quite describe how I felt. All of the sudden there was this woman speaking with this really deep, masculine voice and even though I knew the entire time that she was born Albert Bornstein, it kind of put things in perspective for me. I kept waiting for Kate to return to the feminine voice, and when she was using a different voice following the direction of the voice instructor, I couldn't tell if that was how she sounded before or not. It was a really interested experience, trying to meddle with these feelings because I realize I don't have much real-world experience with transgendered people. I was nervous and I didn't know how exactly to react, but by the end of the show I felt totally at ease. I wish I had been able to go to the lunch with her earlier in the day as well, to sort of close the distance between Kate and myself.

Oh, and I definitely plan on using my get out of hell free card.

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'talking like a woman'

this part of her conversation with us ( i say converation because even though she was 'addresing us' she managed to engage us in a manner that resembled a conversaion) really intrigued me. i loved the way she played with the tone and pitch of her voice to resemble a man, a woman and a man trying to sound like a woman. it was amusing because she exposed and slightly ridiculed the stereotypes associated with female voices and how they should sound.

and it got me thinking about the way i sound and the words i use - and all of that in comparison to other people i know, both male and female.

it was interesting how after her surgery, she 'learnt' how to talk like  a woman - exposing both how much we associate gender with voice and how easy it is to flow in and out of that boundary.

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That part of her performance

That part of her performance really struck me too.  It was really interesting to hear her talk about how learning to be a woman increased her consciousness of gender oppression.  I also thought that the way she performed different characters really underscored the performative nature of gender.

It was an amazing experience.

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Violence against women

 "It was really interesting to hear her talk about how learning to be a woman increased her consciousness of gender oppression."

I think that this is a really interesting observation especially because at her talk at Bryn Mawr she said how violence against women should be the number one focus over things such as gay marriage. She has a very real idea of what oppressing factors are and feel like in the real world ESPECIALLY against women. It is interesting to me that she had to learn what it felt like to be in the oppressed role because she was not necessarily born into it. Crazy! That makes me wonder what kind of an outlook on life would I have if I wasn't a woman. How would people treat me differently? It's one thing to take about inequality between the sexes and it's another to feel it from both sides.

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Notes from last week's talk on reproductive health policies..

Talk: “Reproductive Rights & Wrongs in Contemporary Latin America”
Speaker: Lynn M. Morgan
 
Some background information: Morgan’s research examines the cultural history of reproductive health policies in Latin America (primarily that of Costa Rica and Nicaragua).
 
Interesting facts:
1998- therapeutic abortion is outlawed in El Salvador. Nicaragua adopted this same policy sometime soon after.
2002- mass sterilization of indigenous Peruvian women takes place
-The morning-after pill has recently been banned in Honduras
-U.N. Millennium Development Goal #5: focuses on improving maternal health by reducing maternal mortality rates
 
Some findings from Morgan’s research in Costa Rica:
-Costa Rica currently has no comprehensive sexual education program
-IVF is banned (ironic considering the country’s pro-children attitude)
-Costa Rica itself is a Catholic country and therefore there’s no separation between church and state

-Despite its shocking reproductive health policies, Costa Rica is very politically and socially progressive. The country itself is ranked 3rd in terms of having the highest gender equity in the world.  

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Need notes

I would love some notes on the lecture because I could not attend.
tsecater@unm.edu
That would be great !
thanks

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Welcome to a new Cuba!

            This afternoon I attended Frances Negron-Muntaner’s talk titled “Mariconerias’ of State: Mariela Castro, Homosexuals, and Cuban Politics.” Negron-Muntaner, a celebrated scholar and filmmaker, began her talk by discussing Cuba’s homophobic past. Did you know that in the 60’s Cuba, under Castro’s regime, detained homosexuals in labor camps?! To make matters more interesting, the Cuban government, under the rule of Fidel’s brother, Raul Castro, recently imposed a policy that encourages sexual minorities to engage in Cuba’s domestic discourse. Ironically, this same government that once locked up homosexuals is now welcoming them with open arms. At present, the Cuban government even funds gender reassignment surgery for transsexuals.  
            Negron-Muntaner centered her lecture on answering the question of where exactly does the government’s newly founded love for homosexuals come from. She went onto argue that since Cuba never completely embraced its masculine identity it had to seek out a “sweeter, more feminine body.” The talk continued with a discussion about Mariela Castro, the daughter of Cuba’s current president, Raul Castro. Mariela is said to be the influential female political figure behind Cuba’s sexual revolution. Consequently, Mariela has been marketed as the face for Cuba’s changing domestic policy. 

            From a political standpoint, Cuba has very recently developed an international reputation for being a very progressive and tolerant nation due to its ongoing sexual transformation. Unlike its rivals (mainly the U.S.A and Europe), Cuba has acquired a more “civil” approach to domestic politics. As a result, Cuba is in the process of making a new name for itself in the global arena. Furthermore, according to Frances Negron-Muntaner, Mariela Castro is being prepared to take on more influential leadership roles in Cuba’s government in the near future. This could potentially lead to Cuba receiving even more positive international recognition.   

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"REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS and WRONGS in CONTEMPORARY LATIN AMERICA"

 Hello again,

There's a very interesting talk on reproductive rights being given at Haverford next week:

"The Tri-Co Mellon Faculty Working Group on Culture, Health and Medicine and

the KINSC at Haverford present a talk by:
 
Lynn M. Morgan
Mary E. Woolley Professor of Anthropology, Mount Holyoke College and Weatherhead Fellow at the School for Advanced Research
 
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS and WRONGS in CONTEMPORARY LATIN AMERICA
 
Thursday, October 29, 2009
4:30 pm
Haverford College
Chase Auditorium
 
Lynn M. Morgan's research concerns the intersections of medical anthropology, medical history, political economy and feminist science studies. She is co-editor of Fetal Subjects, Feminist Positions (1999), which examines the intricate politics of abortion and debates about fetal personhood.  She is author of Community Participation in Health: The Politics of Primary Care in Costa Rica (1993).  Her most recent book, Icons of Life: A Cultural History of Human Embryos, has just been released by the University of California Press."
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Some writing tips from Lynda Barry:

After reading most of What It Is I decided that it would be a good idea to attend Lynda Barry’s talk on campus...and boy was I overwhelmed (in a good way) by Barry’s personality! For the next 90 minutes I was entertained by Barry’s awkward yet hysterical performance. Besides learning some new jokes Lynda Barry was successful in teaching me a thing or two about writing. As a writer, Lynda argued that motion is key. By this she meant to say that it is important to keep our hands moving while writing. According to Barry, in order to prevent writer’s block we have to make the difficult decision of trading in our MacBooks for old-fashioned pen and paper. Writing with these simple tools will not only keep our hands in motion but it will provide us with a visual writing experience. Seeing words as images on a paper will undoubtedly inspire us to write more and more. With that said, I think I will take Lynda’s advice and write my next paper with good ol’ pen and paper.   

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ditto

I missed Barry's talk on Friday night, but attended the two-day workshop that followed it;
for some details (and more advice!) see On reforming our "deformed" writing and thinking.

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http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/

/exchange/node/5295

pictures =)

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move it?

hey, skindeep--

move these amazing images to the course forum on disability, sex and gender --
where folks will be more likely to see 'em (and where they'll be in a more relevant thread....)

thanks!

a.

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''aint no 'body' gonna turn me around''

yesterday i went to listen to suzan lori parks, and although what she spoke about wasn't connected directly to gensex, it was intriguing and a lot of fun.

my favorite quote of the evening was 'aint no body gonna turn me around' - from which i (obviously) immediately picked up 'body' and related it to gensex. -- in the sense that there would be no 'body' that would serve as a limitation.

i am lame. i know.

another interesting thing she said right at the begining was that 'writing was her revision of the real' which brought me back to our discussions on literature and language and how that helps shape us and our thoughts. and i must say that even though it does shape us, doesnt it also give us a space for expression? are we shaped through that expression? a little i would assume. maybe its a balancing act.

what i loved about suzan lori was her ability to engage the audience so well. and i think that came from her level of comfort. she seemed to be so comfortable with herself, in her body, on stage, addressing an audience, adding a ridiculous soundtrack to her speechs -- it was so natural. flowing. it made you feel at ease.

she said it was hard being the first at anything - (she was the first african american woman to win a writing award) -- and maybe it was just me but she seemed to say it in an almost mocking way. yes she had won it. yes it was amazing and hard. but was that because she was african american or because she was a woman? pppffft. nope.

i dont know. i liked her. she said a lot of things that ive heard before and a lot of things that were funny and new. but that wasnt it. she was vibrant in a way. alive. and you dont find that very often.

it was inspiring in a soft, comfortable manner.

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striking to me

...to hear both you and cristina rave about how wonderful suzan-lori parks' presentation was, while simultaneously wondering what exactly it had to do w/ sex and gender....

i guess, to me, parks is one of those interactionists (to appropriate a category kristin gave us y'day for thinking about the ways in which two identities--or identity studies--might intersect): parks deals w/ questions of gender and race and ability, all tumbled up together, w/out policing the boundaries. i first discovered her via her two contemporary versions of Nathanial Hawthorne's 19th century novel The Scarlet Letter: a paired set of plays called In the Blood and Fucking A, in which the "marked" woman is a welfare mom who is ostracized because she keeps on having kids. the plays take an old Puritanical tale and make it vividly (too vividly, for most of my students) relevant, in part by insisting on the pressure that racial roles put on gender roles, gender roles put on (dis)abled ones, etc. etc. etc.

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"Lift others as you climb" -Suzan-Lori Parks

             This evening I was fortunate enough to attend Suzan-Lori Parks reading in Goodhart Theater. I must say that I am very happy that this course requires us to attend some outside talks/events. If it weren’t for this requirement then I probably would have missed out on this great talk! Overall, I don’t really see how tonight’s talk directly relates to our main theme of gender and sexuality. However, I did find Parks’ performance to be very enlightening and motivational. More importantly, she briefly touched upon the idea of “activism” which I linked back to our ongoing class discussion about incorporating activism into our new syllabus. 

 
            Parks’ performance was truly innovative in the way that she presented her material. Rather than reading from a text, Parks used odd gestures and innovative sounds to enhance her reading and overall talk.   As a result, I was instantly captivated by her unique presentation style and above all, by the “suggestions” that she offered. 
 
            Throughout her speech Suzan-Lori Parks presented the audience with a number of “suggestions.” Please find below some points/quotes from Parks’ performance that I found to be particularly inspirational:
 
1. In the first part of her talk Parks focused on the notion of entertaining “far-out ideas.” Her intention here was to encourage others to be active in pursuing their dreams and to ignore all those inner voices that emphasize doubt and failure. She went on to provide a personal anecdote from her own life in which she had to make the difficult decision to ignore that cynical inner voice that we all carry. 
 
2. Sometimes you have to say “no” to the advice given to you by those people that you respect…
 
3. “You make your luck.” –Suzan-Lori Parks’ father
 
4. “Don’t worry about being cool.”
 
5. “Lift others as you climb.” (*This was by far one of my favorite quotes of the evening)
 
6. “Practice radical inclusion by opening your eyes wide, just past your comfort zone.” (…in doing so you will see yourself as the other).
 
She ended by encouraging us to spread compassion and to encourage enthusiasm. According to Parks, we are all prized, especially because we have gotten this far ;)
 
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ditto

this one's for you, too--

a.

 

kjmason's picture

Monica Roberts talk coming up

 I copied and pasted this from an email I got today...I imagine some people already know about this, but I thought I'd spread the word. I thought this could fill in some gaps some of us have in trans studies. 

I wanted to let you all know about an event that's happening this coming Tuesday. Monica Roberts is a black trans woman from Kentucky who is the author of the blog Transgriot (http://transgriot.blogspot.com/). Hosted by the Women's Center and the Office of Intercultural Affairs, Monica will be giving a lecture about politics, racism, and queer identity. After her lecture, Monica, the other CDAs and I will be facilitating a discussion about it. 


Where: Thomas 224
When: 4pm, Tuesday 20 Oct

skindeep's picture

an observation

so i travelled to arizona over fall break with my family and at some point we stumbled upon the topic of gender. my aunt and uncle have three kids - two girls (aged 8 and 5) and a two year old son. growing up in a house with two older sisters, my little cousin thinks its completely normal for him to paint his nails and watch/listen to 'girly' shows and songs.

but at the same time, he's obssessed with spiderman and fire trucks - something he hasnt had that much exposure to. this makes my aunt believe that some gender differences are inherent and some get embedded over the years.

im not sure i agree that something llike a liking for cars can be inherent.

 

that being said, did you know that if you go to mc donalds and ask for a happy meal they ask you whether its for a girl or a boy?! and you get the toy accordingly?! what if you're a girl who wants a toy gun or a boy who wants a doll?!!

its upsurd. 

w0m_n's picture

Slippery Slope...in more ways than one

So I went to see the movie "Slippery Slope", which is about a pro-feminist/anti-pornography film maker who in order to get the money for her film to make it to a film festival directs a pornography video. On one while the title of the movie is meant to convey the slippery slope of what happens with the saying the "the ends justify the means". After viewing the film I found it to mean something else. For me the title alluded to the main character before in the beginning of the film. She, holding fast to her convictions about pornography, found it hard to believe that it could be another thing other than a tool for the perpetuating male dominance. In many ways this hindered her growth in other areas of her life. I think the title serves also as a warning to the audience that being caught in your own ideas about how the world should be becomes a "slipper slope" to close-mindedness, which hinders the ability of critical dialogue to happen. This is an important lesson, I think, for this course in particular as there are many disciplines being represented in one conversation. Moreover, this is important lesson when thinking about re-vamping the ivory tower. Often, caught in our own theories and discipline's language for figuring out the world, we do not think about how truly inter-connected it all is and neglect to have interdisciplinary conversations.