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 Topics within our discussion:

-commentary on exporting science & math studies and professions to Asian & Southeast Asian countries

-goals of society vs. personal goals

-culture plays a great role in education and academic discipline

-creativity or discipline needs to be instilled from the start

-rigor vs. intellectual creativity, humanities vs. sciences, creativity vs. rigor

-creativity in sciences -- theories and resynthesizing

-who judges creativity if it is defined as a diversion from a basis line?

Group statement about the current objective of education:

Creativity, discipline and utility are not contradictory; they are compatible. There is a basis/ a foundation and then comes the intellectual creativity.