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Jessica Watkins's picture

‘The Three Doors of Serendip’ invites ideas about much more than its designed purpose, to explore the Monty Hall Dilemma (MHD).  The visuals used in the exhibit are thought provoking; the applets are a wonderful way to bring readers into the world of thinking, guessing and understanding (however, the applet found on the Achieving Broader Understanding page does not work, a logistical glitch that overall doesn’t affect the quality of the exhibition or its message).
    

Several different themes that are seemingly unrelated to the MHD are interwoven into the fabric of the exhibit and add both richness and diversity.  The welcoming page, where the frustration that arises from understanding (or misunderstanding) is discussed, is a nice introduction but could benefit from connections made between the concept of “understanding = knowing the truth” and something like science and the pursuit of absolute knowledge, as well as speculation about whether or not this actually can be attained.  Later in the exhibit the notion of striving to be “less wrong” and not necessarily “right” turns traditional scientific method upside down, but brings with it some contradictions.  If there is no “right,” can there exist a “less wrong?”  This implies that a “wrong” does exist, and if such a thing exists so must a “right.”  Could striving to be “less wrong” lead to just as much, or more, frustration as misunderstanding at the risk of being completely “wrong?”  “Less wrong” may imply that there is no set boundary (no absolute “wrong”) beyond which exists a home for those who perpetually misunderstand.  In our society, structure is a crucial part of daily life and has become somewhat of a security blanket covering our workplaces, government and schools.  “Less wrong” challenges people to give up a boundary that has been in place since the beginning of time.  Also, it might help to directly connect the concept of “less wrong” with the MHD because the two do not seem correlated at first glance, as the MHD can easily be misconstrued as a guessing game (and surely guessing will not always lead to being “less wrong?”).
    

Connections to the article “Mathematicians vs. Birds vs. Monty Hall” and the actual study found in the Journal of Comparative Psychology are definitely important to this exhibit, but comparison between human thought process and that of birds would be helpful as well.  For example, in the portion of the exhibit discussing unconscious learning and skills such as itemizing and generalizing, it would be logical to put a link to the article and journal study.  In this section it might also be beneficial to explain (or link to commentaries about) how birds perform better in the Monty Hall task even though they use no logic, the effectiveness of unconscious learning in humans, and questions about if it’s possible that human beings are actually too analytical.
    

The discussion on “loop” thinking is interesting in relation to the MHD because the evidence from the bird study suggests that these creatures use one mode of “non-logical,” unconscious thinking and perform better than humans at the task, rather than looping between conscious and unconscious thinking.  As discussed in our group this morning, science has yet to take its place next to other fields such as literature and art; this section of the exhibit would be a perfect place to do this.  The quote “Scientific stories are frequently efforts to summarize the widest possible range of observations” can easily be related to a field such as literature/storytelling, which has been in existence since the dawn of mankind.  This would relate science to storytelling, and place them both on the same level by suggesting that storytelling is a universal path to understanding.
    

The square boxes near the top of the page “Unconscious, Intuitive and Experimental Understanding” might prove detrimental to the goal of the forum in breaking down barriers and dissolving categories.  The boxes clearly state that if a reader arrived at the page through one link or the other, they appreciate a certain style of thinking.  It feels uncomfortable to me to tell people what they appreciate, and seems contradictory to the effort of moving away from categorization than can only serve to isolate different minds even further.

 

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jpfeiffer's picture

Striving to be Less Wrong

"In our society, structure is a crucial part of daily life and has become somewhat of a security blanket covering our workplaces, government and schools.  “Less wrong” challenges people to give up a boundary that has been in place since the beginning of time."

I found this statement very thought prokoving as it related to my own experience with education, particularly that of math and science. I remember the constant need for my peers and I to check our answers with those given in the solution manual at all levels of math- from elementary school to high school as well as in biology, chemistry, and physics. Some teachers encouragaed their students to do this on a nightly basis as they completed their homework. Then, the next day in class the next chapter in the textbook would be covered and hardly any attention to the homework assignment from the night before would be given. As long as the answers of the students corresponded to those of the manual it appeared as though all students understood the basic concepts.

This made me now think of the idea that although the students may not have achieved the correct answer that was given in the solution manual, can we extend th idea of being 'more right' maybe not exactly right, to patterns of thought. For example, wouldn't it be correct to say that the students (although they did not arrive at the answer given) did have a 'more right' thought pattern leading up to their answer, thus making them 'less wrong' despite the fact that they didn't achieve the correct answer?

Just some thoughts on this idea...

Jessica Watkins's picture

Not sure if it's right to say

Not sure if it's right to say that we can label a thought process leading up to a solution (or wrong answer) as "more right" or "less wrong."  We run the risk of discrediting certain styles of thought--one thing can't be "more right" without another thing consequently being "more wrong."  In situations where a right answer is reachable, like a math problem for example, it's not wrong to say someone was, well, wrong if they didn't reach the correct answer.  This applies to concrete problems that were designed with concrete solutions.  But if you take something more general like brainstorming as an example, different paths of thought are often quite compatible in reaching a conclusion (or raising more questions) and often prove useful in integrating themselves.

Paul Grobstein's picture

problems with judging things in terms of "right" answers

"As long as the answers of the students corresponded to those of the manual it appeared as though all students understood the basic concepts."

Nice example, it seems to me, of the problems of the "getting it right" mindset.  The underlying notion, I think, is that there is a "right" way to be, and the task of education is to get everybody to that common state.  That ignores the possibility (high likelihood?) that people might in fact get to a "common state" by different paths and that the differences are as interesting/significant as the similarities.  And, as you say, the possibilty that people not reaching the "common state" may actually have done something at least as interesting. If so, what does "more right" mean?  Is it anything other than "less wrong"?  How would one define either operationally if we give up the standard of reaching a "common state," of getting the "right" answer? 

Paul Grobstein's picture

from three doors to birds to ....

Lots of interesting issues posed here, many perhaps worth pursuing further?
"If there is no “right,” can there exist a “less wrong?”  This implies that a “wrong” does exist, and if such a thing exists so must a “right.” "  Can one have "less wrong" without "more right"?  " “Less wrong” challenges people to give up a boundary that has been in place since the beginning of time." " the notion of striving to be “less wrong” and not necessarily “right” turns traditional scientific method upside down"  In what ways?  Is this different from an aspiration to get "more right"?  Cf

"it might also be beneficial to explain (or link to commentaries about) how birds perform better in the Monty Hall task even though they use no logic ... these creatures use one mode of “non-logical,” unconscious thinking"  What does one mean by "no logic" or "non-logical" and what is the relation between that and the unconscious?
"seems contradictory to the effort of moving away from categorization than can only serve to isolate different minds even further."  Does categorization "ONLY serve to isolate ..."  Is this necessarily and always a bad thing? Cf.