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Girls playing with the Boys, and Boys playing with the Girls

Zoe Meyer

On the athletic field, in the gym, or on the ice, there have always been standards for the athletes to follow. These standards range from what type of athletic equipment is not only necessary but appropriate, to who can play when, where, and how. This last standard is the one that is being challenged the most; can men play not only on women’s teams, but can they also participate in female dominated sports without being taunted? The same goes for women, can females, without fear, really participate in traditionally male dominated sports? Although the social costs to the individual participating in the non-traditional sport are many, the benefits, if played well and correctly, can be and are quite plentiful as well.

For men, this desire to participate in traditionally female dominated sports is not quite as great as it is for females. This is because, honestly, men have a wealth of opportunities for athletics, whether it be professional or not, for every one chance women have. But, in the case that a male does want to participate in a female dominated sport, he will have a hard time being accepted, not necessarily by his female teammates, but by the society watching the sport. Traditionally, male athletes are supposed to be in rough and tumble sports. They are supposed to be hard bodied, passionate about the game, and willing to play no matter what the circumstances. Most female sports, even the female counterpart of a male sport, is less rough and tumble and less aggressive than male sports. For a man to participate in one of these sports he is likely to get laughed off the field, taunted with jeers of “homo” and suggestions that he is “not man enough” to play with the “real men” in traditionally male dominated sports. This can not only be damaging to the male playing, but it can also be damaging to the women playing. The jeers could become aimed at the women on the field or the ice and they could hint that women are not only incapable to play, but that since they need a man to join their team to help them, they obviously do not belong anywhere but on the sidelines.

This previous example is probably a little extreme, but the ideas behind it are quite real. Imagine a man walking onto the deck of a swimming pool, ready to compete in synchronized swimming. The expected first impression would be, “what the…?” because men are not supposed to be synchronized swimmers. There may not be jeers taunted at him, and he may not get made fun of, but he is not looked upon favorably by those watching the event. If, however, he is looked upon favorably, in whatever female dominated sport he is participating, the benefits could be plenty. Imagine the publicity the team would get, not to mention the only man on the team! The endorsements for athletic equipment, shoes, and many other things could support him for the rest of his life after just one year of playing. Being the only man on a professional or Olympic level team could potentially lead to more opportunities for endorsements and such than being just another member of a men’s team. This may seem well and good, but when a man “makes it big” playing for a women’s team, there is always the question and suggestion that he should then go play with the big boys. With this in mind, it is easy to see that a male’s opportunity for continual benefits from playing on a women’s team are slim. Again, this is something that is not very common for men at the professional level, or even at an amateur level because of the fact that men have more opportunities to play than women.

Women, on the other hand, often want to participate in, not only traditionally male dominated sports because, at least now there are female counterparts for them, but they want to “play with the big boys” as well. For a female to “break into” a male sport is probably one of the most difficult parts of actually being an athlete. The main argument that is used almost regardless of the sport for women participating in traditionally male dominated sports is that the female body is not made to correctly function while participating. Also, the idea that the women will lose their femininity if they play with men is another reason to keep them off the field and out of the ring. For women to be taken seriously in a male dominated sport they have to not only be the best female in the ring, gym, or wherever, they also have to be the best overall athlete.

Traditionally, women are thought of as more fragile, and less aggressive than men. With this in mind, it is clear the reasons why it is so difficult for women to participate in male dominated sports. The costs to a woman playing with a man in the ring or on the field are more numerous than simply getting laughed at and called names. Usually, to really see the extent to which women can take playing with the boys, the men will usually play their hardest, if not harder in an attempt to push the women to their limits and eventually make them quit. Also, since the woman is in a male dominated sport, the chances that there are other females out there helping “the cause” are very small which makes it even harder for her to be taken seriously.

The benefits for a woman in a man’s sport however are probably some of the greatest out there. She will not only most likely be the star and the sweetheart of the team, but she will also most likely get the most attention both in and out of the game. Also, the endorsements for a woman playing with men are unimaginable, especially with all the feminists behind her and supporting her, she will most likely never have to worry about money again. The one problem with all of this though, is that she will probably have to be defending her sexuality constantly from those that think all female athletes are gay. However, if any woman can get through the taunting, and succeed in a male dominated sport, then she truly will have “made it” in the world of athletics.

For men and women to participate in sports not traditionally dominated by their sex is probably a lot more difficult at first than would seem worth it, but in the end it could be a major stepping stone into the world of athletics as well as the rest of society. The costs to both seem, at first, almost insurmountable, but once they have become versed in the ways of the sport, the benefits out rule it all.

 

Continuing conversation
(to contribute your own observations/thoughts, post a comment below)

08/01/2005, from a Reader on the Web

I am an african american FEMALE, who plays football. I started at the age of 5 when i played on a 6 yr old BOY TEAM. when i first started yea, it was harsh but as i got older boys became scared of me and girls didnt even look at me unless they were my friends because they knew who i was!!!! I was the best player on the team amd recieved a lot of MVP's. people shouldn't discriminate agaist girl(women) because girls "some" girls r as tough as boys. sure i had lil boyfriends and i still did girl thing but dont juge a girl by what they look like, because i could be the prettiest girl but also the "one who knows how to take care of business! till' this day noone messes with me or even THINKS about "tryin'" to pick on me even though i may not look like a football player i AM one! Sincxe i am omly 13 i still have lots to accomplish and i say yeah to ALL the girls who think they can handle the sport!!!!!!!!!!!!1 P.S- on my team after the games boys couldn't even tell i was a girl until' i took my helment off becouse i was that good, i am not afraid to brake a nail and i am not preppy i am "a football playin' female repin' all da guhs!!!!!GET THAT?!?!?!?!?


01/05/2006, from a Reader on the Web

I am 14 years old and so into football... many people see its as strange (mostly females) but many other people (mostly males) think its cool. Its not that i wanna play with the "big boys" as your article states. I just like to play football. I am not trying to prove myself in anyway.. i just wanna play. What i'm trying to say is i disagree with the argument why females play male teams.

 

Additional comments made prior to 2007
i have been a very athletic girl since i was about 5 and i have always wanted to play football with the boys. yet its hard b.c of the trouble u get with ppl saying names and stuff . i believe girls should have the right considering its against the law to judge ppl of their sex. if they are just as good as the boys or better and can keep up with the competiotion then heck yess they should play with them and show girls are jsut as equal as boys!!! ... Reader on the web, 3 April 2006

 

 

there is no way that a girl can play football especially in the Texas 5A district I mean they would get killed. Plus I have played football with a girl and its weird it feels like u have to go easy on them or something.their also very dramatic and they might hurt themselfs ... Brennan Deuel, 15 May 2006

 

 

I love Football I have loved it forever! But I can't play on the team. I am in 8th grade and I am 14 I think that I can make up my mind if I want to play!! But the school sead that they don't want me to get hert! Give me a break I love football I can thow better then all the boys in my gym class. The boys think that I am not good enoph but give me a team and a football and I will show you what I can do! Even my dad sead that I am really good at home I have my own football and half the boys at school don't. So why can't I play?!?!?! ... Stephanie Garnett, 18 October 2006

 

 

i am 13 years old and i love to play football but my school wont let firls try out for football. i am really disappointed that i cant try out. i have also been told a number of times that i am a great thrower and sometimes a good chatcher. i would love to start playing football ... Falysha Raymond, 19 October 2006

 

 

WOW, what a great artical, congrats! all of it is so true...personally i think boys and girls should be able to participate in whichever sport, whenever and with who! it would be fantastic to see one day, during prime time, on a prime television station, a male dominated sport being played by females and gettin gthe same amount of surport as male sports do today ... Brooke, 9 November 2006

 

 

i am a 16 yr old girl that plays rugby and wrestles, because im interested in it and enjoy contact sports, Iv only been playin for two years and was introduced to it through my highschool. I wasn't treated differently by my friends and have continuously practised with the boys rugby team and wrestled with guy in practise. Im not particulary gifed in athletics, but just do it for fun and to stay in shape, and society has changed to accept females in contact sports ... Reader on the web, 5 December 2006

 

 

hey ya i think its so ture what the girls wrote we should be aloud to play football caus im a female and i love to play football iv been playing since i was 5 im 16 now and i still play. no girls think about messing me with and well u get know know alot of guys and they are cool about me playing with them they love it one year i didnt play cuz i broke a arm and they missed me ... Lee-Anna, 6 February 2007

 

 

I agree with the first person because most girls are tough like boys! I want to play football but the coaches are against it! I also love wrestling to but thier is no teams and of course the coaches won't let me try out! Any ways I soooooo agree with u! P.S girls are just as tough as boys! ... Elizabeth, 10 April 2007

 

 

Hi i am a female,some people think tht football is a game for boys only but is not,i am an african i love playing football but here in Cameroon most dont play i often play with the boys so i get stronger ,y dad supports me but my mom dont even think of it so i am pleading with any one who reads this which can help in any way to jon my fellow girls play should just mail me please ... Taka gina lor, 21 July 2007

 

 

I am 18 years old, and am currently coaching an all boys hockey team. I have been playing hockey from the time i was 5 and couldn't be happier. Yes i was playing on a all boys team for 12 years, but i think that it made me better at the sport becasue, i was challenged. I loved playing the sport and made some amazing friend threw it. I tried playing for a girls team but i missed my "boys". yes they do get pissed when they realize a girl just knocked them on thier butt but on the other hand it gave me more confidence as a girl playing a boy sport! MUCH LOVE! ... Stephanie, 12 November 2007

 

 

Im 14 years old and love to wrestle!! when i say i want to wrestle with the school!! they told me no cause i was a girl!! theres a couple of wrestling teams in the town that i live in!! but my parents say the only way i can is if i wrestle with the sschool team!! if there are other schools that r like mine i think its bull that they wont let u!! im already one of the girls that most people look at like o dont mess wit her!! ive wrestled before but now that im older i cant wrestle wit the clubs! but i hope i have a chance wit sumthing!! ... Page Slater, 13 November 2007

 

 

I have played soccer fo rthe last 8 years of my life and girls have been on my teams for my whole soccer "career" i dont see the problem with girls on my team i also wrestle and do cross country on my cross country team my best friend is tougher than i am when it comes to a pace and this is my first year wrestling and last year there was a girl on our team that lost only one of her matches and i have lost all of mine so anyone has no right to say that girls arent as tought as the men. i'm only 12 years old and i have many friends that play way harder in many sports that i play i think girls can play any sport they want to ... Austin, 6 December 2007

Comments

Yazmin's picture

I HAVE WANTED TO MY WHOLE LIFE

I have wanted to since my brother started to play. When i was in middle school a whole bunch of my friends tried to get the school to make a girls football team but the principle said"we dont have the money" yea right! We even said that we would use the boys football
jersey. Later to find out that they thought we wouldnt win any of the games. THATS CRAP! Im in high school now i am thinking about joining watch out boys here i come!

alexis!'s picture

wrestling

My name is alexis and i am just starting my third year of wrestling. I'm on a guy's team. im currently in 9th grade. in 7th grade there was a 6th grader female too, and she would practice with me (btw she was 160lbs and i was 120) but i didnt complain because all of the boys on the team hated us, and wouldnt talk to us. They made us to extra laps because they thought we were slackers, now i mustt say my partner was a bit lazy and slower than everyone else but she still tried! and i was always the first after we finished our laps. i was in xc. but ig they thought i was cheating so i was forced to do more. that year i got 3rd place in my county meet. the next year, 8th grade the girl was still there, she was in 7th grade. i wrestled her and if she was absent i was forced to sit out because no boy would wrestle me. i got 2nd place that year. now, it's 9th grade 11/14/16 and my wrestling partner is in 8th, she's in middle school and im in high. so i had to wrestle boys, i really have only wrestled them during matches so i was kind scared. so at practice i wrestled another freshman, and he was about my weight and he's new, and the high school coach ASKED ME TO COACH HIM !!!! so like i was a long stronger & experienced than him. (i accidentally made his mouth bleed oops! )-: ) and i think he's scared of me now XD. but yea that's my story, see ya around!

JoJoPelizzi's picture

Girls Playing Football.

Okay. Well im a girl ( 13 years old ) who has a passion for Football. People say its ¨STRANGE¨ or ¨IDIOTIC¨ for me to be playing football. Yes, Ive played football. on a BOYS TEAM to be more specific. And I went on my schools website for the sports or whatever and it says only MALES can try out. what pissed me tf off is that girls should be able to try out for any type of sport. in my county it says that if there is no GIRL AMERICAN FOOTBALL team and there is a BOY AMERICAN FOOTBALL team, girls should be able to try out.

Serendip Visitor's picture

You dont understand how hard

You dont understand how hard girls work for what they do. I bet any girl plays any game better than you. So you shouldent talk.

All those mean Comments's picture

Just so ya know

I believe that Boys and girls are even. And yes I myself am a girl. but that doesn't matter. I am actually writing an essay about this matter and I came n here for information. All I found was that boys are jerk by countless comments of boys saying that there better then us. They are really not. Now Girls aren't better. THEY ARE EVEN!!!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!! But not all boys are jerks I also saw a few boys who agreed. So Thanks to those people. Thanks for reading.

Serendip Visitor's picture

I agree

I also am doing a report on this topic, and I agree on everything you just said :)

monkeeman's picture

Equality should be both ways

If girls are allowed to have GIRLS ONLY leagues then rightly boys should be allowed to have BOYS ONLY leagues.
Recently there was an incident where a girl goalie in hockey made a REP hockey team (was only girl on team and she did deserve to be there) and because of rules stating a league can only field 1 team due to numbers than team must be play rep division( try outs are required) a young boy goalie had no where to play and therefore did not that year. At the same time there wa a girls only league in the area that this same girl goalie played on and was the only goalie they had and because of that she played all the games there.
The boy who did not make the team requested a spot on the girls team but was denied therefore in the end
1 boy goalie played 1/2 time at rep level, 1 girl goalie played 1/2 time at rep level and full time who girls team and 1 boy was excluded from hockey as he did not have a team to play on.... this boys ended up quitting hockey.
If we can have to have COED teams and we are allowed GIRL ONLY teams , then BOYS ONLY teams should be allowed or we just get rid of all teams and have SPORTS ONLY TEAM where anyone can play no matter what race, sex,skill level. (personally think dumb Idea)

Serendip Visitor's picture

Girls and Boys playing on the same team

So your right girls and boys should be on the same but, I think the reason for boys and girls on separate teams is because some boys get too rough and some girls aren't that rough and don't like being tackled and I know what your thinking if they don't won't to get hurt than why?Do they even play and I don't know about that either so if you have anymore questions about it just email me at one of these emails

Julia's picture

Basket ball as a girl

I love playing basketball and I am really good but no guys pad to me because they think I'm not good. A group of guys and 2 girls would play basketball before school the only way I got to play was asking ( not invited) They got in trouble for not playing with a guardian watching them and then they started again but didn't invite me. Its super annoying when guys don't invite you to do sports just cause you are a girl.

Serendip Visitor's picture

Pageants and Trail Maids

I'm a boy and I just ended my freshman year in H.S. All sports bore me to death so I really don't care who plays what sport with whom. But one thing is certain: everything needs to be kept even and fair. Now we do have two girls who play on boy's football teams and nobody seems to have a problem with that. However, my greatest passion is crossdressing but I am limited to womanless beauty pageants and am not allowed to participate in girl's beauty pageants and that is not fair and even. Even as a boy I am frequently being mistaken for a girl and when I dress as a girl I always truly pass as a real teenage girl so there is no reason why I should not be allowed to participate in girl's pageants. Also, where I live (Mobile, Alabama), girls who are seniors can become Azalea Trail Maids and again, no boys may be considered to be Trail Maids and that is just plain wrong. I should be allowed to compete to be a trail maid as long as I can look dress and act like a Southern Belle and the fact that I cannot is discrimination cut and dried!

Serendip Visitor's picture

Why I believe it should be allowed.

I know girls are supposed like fragile and all but girls like me want to get down and dirty and not be all girly and stuff. I think girls are just as tough as boys if not tougher. We have to give birth to babies and stuff and boys just make the babies thats all they do they dont deliver the baby. In sports like wrestling, girls are allowed to participate so why cant we participate in football and sports like that too. It is just dumb to me that we cant play on boys teams.

skyler 's picture

Why I believe it should be allowed

I agree that girls should be able to play in boy sports. I played football with my guy friends, however they would tease by saying " should we d touch tackling?"; and I responded by tackling the person that said that. Girls are stronger than boys think, we can play sports with the boys as equals. No special treatment, or going easy, we can take it.

Serendip Visitor's picture

I'm a dude and I know some

I'm a dude and I know some girls that could kick ass in any sport. I play lacrosse and ther is a girls version wher the can't hit each other at all. In boys you can body slam and wack each other. As I watch the girls play, I notice that some of them look like the want to go full on boys lacrosse, but they can't. I've known one girl who played against me and hit me to the ground and took the ball from me. Some girls are tougher than some boys.

mysterious marin's picture

girls playing sports

Hi my name is Mysterious and I want boys and girls to play on the same team i mean its only fair boys
can play football and girls cant wheres the fun in that and girls arent "weaker" or less "phisical" i know i cant spell dont point it out an i wish the world would just have peace again i mean really stop the hatred please im not asking im telling you

love mysterious marin love you all :)

G's picture

If you want to do it then go ahead

I am a Junior in High School, a female, and I have been playing Varsity BOYS ice hockey since I was a freshman. I do not think all women are meant to play this sport, but the same applies to men. What I do agree with is that women aren't structured like men and some workouts that my team does are very intense on a woman's body compared to a males. In no way am I saying that females cant do it, but it is a challenge and you have to be willing to do it. I love it, even though I know I'm not the strongest or fastest but I have the most drive and dedication to the sport. That's all a woman or man needs if they want to play any sport.

Somepeople's picture

Even though I am a man I think women are stronger

As they bleed for 7 days straight and survive!

briannaah <my actuall name.'s picture

True true we do bleed for 3-7

True true we do bleed for 3-7 days , but some girls don't make it
Some girls are reluctant and take medicine.

Serendip Visitor's picture

What do having your period

What do having your period have to do with playing football? You plug it up when you play basketball, soccer, track & field and even swimming! Lame excuses!! I've been playing Professional full contact football for 9 years now. My period never got in the way. I still went out there and dominated like I should. Anything a man can do.... I am going to try to do it better in my league.

person's picture

cramps

Its not about that it's the cramps

HWrestler's picture

This is my third year

This is my third year wrestling, i'm 16. Yes I'm on the guys team. I've had my run ins with boys that don't support me. The team doesn't even cheer for me when i'm actually winning a match and there's another girl on the team with me and its her second year wrestling. She is not very good. She has not won any matches other then forfeits or byes. But I won 5 matches and lost 5 matches for varsity and I do not get treated the same as her. The team cheers for her and shes always loosing. I took her to a all girls tornoment and she got 3rd place and I GOT 1st. No team members or the coaches have watched or came to a girls tournoment. The boys always are talking to her and i'm always the one in the corner. But there's a few boys that are actually really close to me Dill hes in my weight class and hes smaller then me but hes good he helps me with a lot of stuff. Ty is another that helps me. Both Dill and Ty do not like wrestling with the other girl because shes no match for them and she doesn't even try, they like that I try and I work hard. Dill has try'd asking the coaches if he could let me wrestle because hes a fresh man and i'm a sofphore. But the coaches said no so his score is higher then mine and Dill knows I'm good and hes trying to get me to tell the coaches to put me in but the coaches won't. So all i'm saying is that yes you might have some bumps in the road but soon enough you'll get some ware and blow some body's mind because they have never seen it before. Just KEEP FIGHTING! Please, you will regret it in the future. (Ps sorry bout the spelling errors was typing so fast and supposed to be doing home work couldn't fix them)

alexis!'s picture

wrestling

My name is alexis and i am just starting my third year of wrestling. I'm on a guy's team. im currently in 9th grade. in 7th grade there was a 6th grader female too, and she would practice with me (btw she was 160lbs and i was 120) but i didnt complain because all of the boys on the team hated us, and wouldnt talk to us. They made us to extra laps because they thought we were slackers, now i mustt say my partner was a bit lazy and slower than everyone else but she still tried! and i was always the first after we finished our laps. i was in xc. but ig they thought i was cheating so i was forced to do more. that year i got 3rd place in my county meet. the next year, 8th grade the girl was still there, she was in 7th grade. i wrestled her and if she was absent i was forced to sit out because no boy would wrestle me. i got 2nd place that year. now, it's 9th grade 11/14/16 and my wrestling partner is in 8th, she's in middle school and im in high. so i had to wrestle boys, i really have only wrestled them during matches so i was kind scared. so at practice i wrestled another freshman, and he was about my weight and he's new, and the high school coach ASKED ME TO COACH HIM !!!! so like i was a long stronger & experienced than him. (i accidentally made his mouth bleed oops! )-: ) and i think he's scared of me now XD. but yea that's my story. I think its beautiful how so many women are trying out men's sports like me, i feels so good to know you're not alone. DON'T GIVE UP KEEP TRYING!!!

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SPorts

Girls shoulsn't play football on boy's team. And I have reasons. Sure maybe a few times exceptions are made. But in profesional fnl leagues, I dont think so. Lets take the college Alabama. Alabama has the best play and best, and biggest players, you think a girl can handle them? I don't think so. I have nothing against girls (women), but I just want whats best for every person, and to just be broken by football players because your a girl trying to prove a point. I think that's just dumb.

Serendip Visitor's picture

To prove a point...really-_-

Ok so what if it's not to prove a point. Why does everyone think we put ourselves through this shit, go through tackling drills with people 3 times our size, go through 30 minutes of straight conditioning and play in important ass games or go through six hours of preseason for two weeks while our vagina is bleeding and our stomach hurts like hell. What female in her right mind would put herself through this utter insanity if she didn't love it. I'm 14 years old, 5'4 130lb linemen. Some of these guys are 200+ lbs on my team and we're some of the smallest in our league and playing football to prove a point is all great and dandy until guys from both teams are piled on top of u during a play, or you get knocked on ur ass by some 6'4 behemoth. If I was doing this to prove a point, I would've quit the first day of preseason. Maybe some girls put themselves through this excruciating ass sport to prove some stupid point on how girls are just as good or better than guys but most of us do it cuz we love it. Do I like having sore arms for 3 consecutive weeks at a time, no, but I love knocking running backs on their ass. Does that quarterback girl like getting sacked everytime her linemen fuck up, no, but I'm sure she loves throwing touchdowns. Does the wide receiver who just so happens to be female adore running suicides, hell no, but I'm sure she loves running to the end zone or guess what. SHE WOULDN'T PLAY THE DAMN SPORT! Not to mention their are aspects of football u kind of miss on being on all girls teams. While ur school teams got some people singing the national anthem and has posters everywhere for the big game, your lucky if some parents show up. While they get cheerleaders, you get some beat down radio. While they get clean cut green grass and new equipment every year, you get decade old equipment and a decent turf field. Not to mention its a lot easier joining ur school team considering the fact that it's hard to find all girls leagues in your area. Now I can't speak for every girl who plays football but whoever does this for the sole purpose of proving some point about how girls are just as good as guys is probably not gonna last long. Also if I can handle these 200+ people as a linemen I'm sure some girl bigger than me can handle some guys fr Alabama

Serendip Visitor's picture

The bigger they are the harder they fall.

I'm a girl who has played football for 3 years and have gone against stronger and bigger men. It doesn't matter, size is just a size. We arent Ll meant to be the same. Every body at some point in life comes up against a bigger, tougher component. But you never give up and BELIEVE you can do it. You'd be surprised what a girl faces in football. But she still walks off the field at the end of every game with her brothers. It's not just a team, it's a family.

jasmine's picture

y is it illegal for a girl to play on a boys basketball team!?

I'm a 13 almost 14 year old female and my basketball team couldn't play this year cause we got money stolen and stuff so my mom called to see if i could play on the guys team and that's when we found out it isn't legal anymore for a girl to play on a guys team...which is so sad...so why cant a GIRL play on a guys basketball team but she can wrestle, play foot ball, soccer, and etc. its not fair! and doesn't make sense...

Lexa's picture

Technically it is illegal for

Technically it is illegal for them to make it illegal for you to play with the boys because if discrimination. I am a girl playing high school football and I have talked to the coaches about playing baseball too. They atleast have to let you try out for the sport. They don't have to make you part of the team but iris illegal for them to not even let you try.

Eric Mazun's picture

Yes, I too believe in things

Yes, I too believe in things being fair, but honestly, why do girls and women have to be so unjust & play football? When you get hit by an opposing linebacker what would you do then? It's not physically feasible because of your (ahem, ahem) breasts. There are many other things that are different between men & women.

Gina piscopo's picture

Yea dude, we are built

Yea dude, we are built differently, we do have breasts we do have a vagina. My point is that are muscles aren't built any different. If you don't want girls playing because of your ego. Really man, really. If a girl is willing to put her self out on that field, get made fun off, get told your not good enough, get knocked down emotionally and physically, that she knows that she will get badly injuired from time to time, and STILL is willing to play, STILL gets back up. Not only is she tough she could be even tougher than you. I am a 14 year old girl who as played with my guy cousins in every sport there is in the backyard. Not only can I beat them but I beat them good. All I have to say is football is love football is life. Once I have a daughter and she wants to play football I will do everything in my power to get her playing. Sorry boys that your egos get shot down when a girl beats you but live with it.

Eric Mazun's picture

girls play football?

I understand about you having breasts, but for one reason or another I concluded that girls cannot play football because of that single aspect of the difference between men and women. I also know your muscles are no different than a man's, and it has nothing to do with my ego, so you can knock that off the table. I'm sure there are a few particularly insecure men who feel belittled because a woman can do the same job as himself. I absolutely agree with you with the part of your message where you say 'if a girl is willing to put herself out on that field,' and I applaud girls in particular for following their dreams. I applaud you as well for beating your 'cousin in every sport there is in the backyard.' But if and when you have a daughter who wants to play a man's sport, I'd advise you not to pursue it. Again, football is a man's sport. God made males and females for a reason, one has the equipment for reproduction & the other does not. Lastly, the last thing I want to do is be known as a sexist, so you can take that off the table as well. I hope you have a beautiful life & have a nice day.

Cheers,
Eric Mazun

Serendip Visitor's picture

why not

PEOPLE WE ARE ALL GHE SAME GET USED TO IT THE BOUS ARE STRONGER AND THE GIRLS ARE SEXIER DEAL WITH IT

Serendip Visitor's picture

What!? "Boys are stronger than girls"!?

I beg to differ. I am a fifteen year old boy and most girls my age are stronger than me! I have never wanted to be strong and muscular and I have purposely always avoided any activity that had the potential to cause me to build arm and upper body muscles. I just started high school and last week I faked a bench-press accident then used it to get my sister's female doctor to get me permanently excused from weight-training. I think visible muscles would make me look masculine and I never want. To look masculine! I am very girlish-looking cross-dressing weakling and Iove to dress and act like a super femine girly girl. Yes, I'm sure you and most guys wld consider me a sissy, which is what and who I love to be! Things have to be made fair annd equal so you need to accept girls who want to play sports with the boys just as girls need to accept boys who want to do girly stuff with girls!

Tyler Yell's picture

im a 16 yr old male @

im a 16 yr old male @ christoval and i agree with the girls that say they should get to play

Sierra Christopher's picture

Football

I have a 14-year-old girl in eighth grade that has played Football since I was a three-year-old and guess what the boys won't go near me because they know what I can do and only the girls will go near me when they need something from me or when they want me to give somebody to get a rude awakening or because they're good friends with being only at a school that has 500 kids through pre-K to 12 grade it's actually pretty easy to get through to the boys that you are one of the best. But we play kids football teams from other schools that have 2000 people who go to their school and their football team it is hard to play you but you got to be tough. Im the only one (girl) of my schools history to ever play football. I see nothing wrong with girls playing football if they want to get out there they can get out there but just to tell you girls that want to play it's a pretty tough sport you got to be tough and you got to be able to take a Beating. And ps SOCCER IS NOT FOOTBALL!! They are two different sports!

Zack Taylor's picture

football for girls…yes

I think that girls should play in football and other sports.Because not all girls are "soft" and some would make the team better both play wise and sponsor wise.

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Dreams

When I was 10 I had to l join a softball team I played baseball since I was able to play . I was so upset and confused I was crying my eyes, I didn't understand why I wasn't able to play on a baseball team my. Mom told me "you show those boys who's the boss" wich made me laugh. So me and my mom started a baseball team with girls who wanted to play with boys. Some coaches thought we will lose but we only loss a couple of games.What I'm trying to tell you is that stay strong and don't let someone ruin your dreams.

Serendip Visitor's picture

Watched the 1st woman played in a pro league

I watched history in making and the way she got HIT! Was not right. I love the way she popped up over and over again. That linebacker that kept get good smack down hit. She was only 130lbs. I'm happy with our own league!

Jayna Kuklin's picture

Girls can play any sport that they like.

I'm a freshman in high school and I play basketball, football, and flag football. I actually have never played with the boys before, (except for flag football) and I'm actually uncertain whether I could play football. I can actually handle being tackled, yet it would make me cut my lip since I have braces.

And, girls can play any sport they choose.

Mya's picture

OMG

I totally agree that girls should be able to participate in male sports if they wish.I am one of the girls who is obsessed with football and the boys dont mind the girls playing because they are nice

Serendip Visitor's picture

soccer

aye ive been playing soccer sense I was 4 im 12 now and ive been playing with guys my whole life guys yah they can be stronger but I pushed guys twice my height I was in a u10 team when I was 8 girls r just as strong as guys the whole u12/u13 league knows me and how I play and im a defender u have to know how to be strong they wouldn't put a girl as defender if she wasn't aggressive so plzzz u should take this page down its a fake!

Serendip Visitor's picture

soccer

preach it girl!!! I play soccer too, ive been playing since I was 3, and im 14 now. im a defender too...u have to have lots of leg muscle, and its hard work, but girls are strong if they want to be. I think the boys are just afraid that us, girls, will beat them at their own game. GO GIRLS!!!! stay fierce, stay positive, don't give up, and stay strong! lets show these peeps who we really are, and how well we can play:) Stay true to yourself!!!!

Ariana Lozada's picture

Sports...all me baby

Ithink girls should play because im a 12 year old girl and im not afraid to get hit in the face by a football ,basetball, or anything else. becuz im the one to take the risk to take a team to become a winning team. since i was like four my big brother taought me bunch of sports like football and basketball and even a bit of baseball, but when i got to a school team i play soccer now and im one of the best goaies i even let the ball hit ma face once or twice my own mum says im great even my papi..but everyone i know says i have a winning arm soo ..i say yea let the girls play.....

Your grammar is terrible's picture

Your grammar and spellings absolutely disgusting.

You're grammar is awful, your arguments are flawed and you show no signs of sophistication. You claim you are good at 'soccer' (which I call football as I am from England) however I can infer that you do not know much about the sport based on your claim that you are one of the best 'goaies' (goalies) as you can let the ball hit your face. This does not make you good at soccer in any shape or form, therefore I believe that you should reconsider your comment. I hope you understand your mistakes and rectify them as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

JD

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Hey, JD

Hey, JD you are rude. Who cares how well her grammar is? I certainly don't. Also, how immature of you to pick on someone due to the fact that they spelled goalie incorrectly. It was a simple spelling error, and you make it seem like leaving out the l proves to the entire world that she must be a terrible soccer player. Being honest is fine, but you took it too far. You were just mean, therefore I believe that you should reconsider your comment. I hope you understand your mistakes and rectify them as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

Meg

Percy J.'s picture

Girls

My sister can beat me in arm wrestling even though I'm a year older. So, just for the record, girls aren't fragile. And I should know. After 5 years I'm still wringing my hand.

Gabi's picture

Rugby

I am a 12 year old girl. There isnt a boy in my grade that can beat me in arm wrestling.
My under 12 rugby coach won't let me even come to practises because he says girls are "fragile"
and "it will only end in tears". All the rugby players keep telling him that I should play but he won't
allow it. I know I'm not the only one out there that this has happend to and I know I won't be the
last but men should really stop thinking that girls or women are "soft and fragile" becuase the are
wrong!!!!! We really are a lot tougher than we look!

football player's picture

American Football, too

I agree, Gabi! My friend was the toughest kid in her class when she was 12. She beat all of the boys at arm wrestling and regular wrestling, too. She was rougher and tougher then the boys when she played tackle football in neighborhood games, and she was usually one of the first chosen when we picked teams. She could run hard, block anyone, and she could take a hit from anyone and keep on moving. She got tackled hard and got right back up, but some of the boys didn't do so well when she tackled them. Her parents ordered her not to play because girls are too "fragile." She did it anyway, out of their sight. But as she got older, all of that pressure to conform to stereotypes was harder for her to resist. That part is sad.

Ella Ambrose's picture

Schoolsports

Hi , i'm 11! When we play soccer in school the boys never pass to the girls, me and me friends just started playing soccer, so when we started everyone was passing to us,, but when we got used to the game they never passed to us again, so when the ball comes out of the box all the boys come running for the ball like mouse chasing cheese, and I got the ball first, and when I got it, they were all like pass it to me! Then my bff said pass it to ur crush!! And den i was like ur weird! And den my crush came up to me and took the ball off me and gave me a peck on d cheek and I screamed!! And my friends said i tink ur gonna start datin liam,, and like 4 days after we started datin and the boys started passing to the girls!! And most of the girls were jealous of me cause he is the cutest in our class!!

jonathan douglas 's picture

i agree

women should be able to play what ever sport they want i see no problem with it and the fact is people that do that are scum and should be smash by a full professional team to straighten them out its a disgrace that it still happens i go to my rugby club and the women get on with playing they have a lot of strength and play a fantastic game men who mess women around and dont let them play let see them say that to the professional womens rugby team from any where.

Serendip Visitor 's picture

They should be able to play

They should be able to play because some girls work as hard as boys to do what they love. Some girls have the potential and are capable of doing what any boy can do or what any boy can't do.

Serendip Visitor's picture

Rules,Rules, Rules

Girls,boys, why can't you begin to see that we should all be able to get along and just agree to be with eachother? Girls and boys were meant to work together naturally,I mean, come on. Girlsand boys both cook. In fact, I have a best friend that isa guy that LOVES to cook. Why should it be any different with football or wrestling? Girls can be pretty tough, too. I have several strong guyfriends that lost to a girl in arm wrestling. She was going easy on them! Yes, I understand you all have been a little wired up about the issue, but the answer is simple; GET ALONG AND ALLOW THE SAME GENDERS ON THE SAME SPORTS TEAMS.