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I appreciate Anne's posting up that link to the article on "emergent gravity". As Grobstein knows, and others in the group may have gathered, I am very interested in physics -- although I know nothing about it. Anyway, the article on gravity was quite interesting. It fits with some similar ideas that have been floating around for a while, i.e., that things like gravity, time, even inertia, are (what I call) "epiphenomena" of some much more fundamental physical properties or structures. It's something I am intrigued by because it shows that everything we thought was "final" or "fundamental" may not be -- we are as arrogant as the late 19th-century physicists who felt that they had discovered most of what there was to discover. In fact, they were only looking at the surface. As we are, too, it seems... My own belief is more complicated (and it is no more than a belief, since I am not a physicist, or, I would say, even an intellectual!): I think that the physical phenomena we observe are epiphenomena of our own consciousness, without any actual existence at all in the sense that we typically talk about it...