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One thing, among many, that stays with me from today's so interesting discussion (thanks, Michelle, Vanessa, and Anne) is the question whether students can ever learn from good advice or only by trying things (such as putting unrealistic grade pressure on themselves) out and seeing what works and what doesn't. One problem is that trying it out doesn't always lead to seeing. Sometimes seeing is blocked. Also, can it be that dialogue with a good advisor can be a matter of doing, not just of telling/being told to? In terms of the framing of today's session, when can listening/engaging with another itself be a choice, a [wonderfu] enrichment/extension of self and of self-knowledge?

Another thing I am thinking about is attention. How if one's attention is taken up with all of the matter of a big (relative term, I know) house, one can't give as much attention to other things. So: if I pay attention to the fashion of my cutlery, how much does that draw away from my attention to someone else, or to how words sound, or to world politics? Or, is attention not finite in this way?