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The Science Behind Anastasia
Anastasia Romanov was the youngest daughter of Tsar Nicholas and Tsarina Alexandra of Russia. The Romanov family ruled Russia for nearly 300 years until 1917 when Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheveks overthrew the Romanovs, imprisoning Anastasia and her family in Siberia until 1918 when they were murdered by Bolshevik soldiers. The bodies were buried in a secret location.
In the 1920’s a previously unknown woman in a mental hospital in Germany began claiming that she was Anastasia Romanov. She continued to make these claims up until her death in 1984, and arguably not without reason. There had been rumors that some of the members of the Tsar’s family had escaped the soldiers and as the woman had the same eye color, hair color, height, and body markings as the Romanov princess (including a deformed foot), most of the Russian public was not hesitant to accept the woman known as Anastasia Anderson to be the real Anastasia Romanov.
Then in 1991, the remains of the Romanov family were found and exhumed in Siberia. Portions of skeletons were found and the remains were identified as the Tsarina three of her female children using mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA is inherited solely from one’s mother. Once DNA was extracted from the skeletons, it was compared to that of the most recent maternal relative, Prince Philip of England; and as all four DNA samples matched that of the prince, it was confirmed that the nine skeletons that had been found included those of the Tsarina and three of her female children. Similar methods were used to confirm the identities of the other skeletons including that of Tsar Nicholas using mitochondrial DNA from James, Duke of Fife. However, it was concluded that the bodies of Princess Anastasia and Prince Alexei had not been found.
Using this method of analysis, the question of Anna Anderson’s identity should be relatively easy to answer. Should mitochondrial DNA from Anderson match that of the skeletons and/or of Prince Philip, then there would be “proof’ that she was indeed Princess Anastasia. Following a surgery in 1979, doctors had allegedly frozen a section of Anderson’s intestine that was still in tact enough to use for DNA extraction. It was then concluded that Anderson’s DNA did not match that of Prince Philip and finally in 1995, the scientific journal Nature Genetics published a letter written collectively by 11 scientists involved in the DNA testing that supported the conclusion that there was no way Anna Anderson and Anastasia Romanov were the same person.
Despite this strong scientific evidence, there are several people, myself included, who refuse to believe that Anderson was the not the long lost princess. Some cite the “uncanny and non-coincidental” physical resemblance; others still, her knowledge of the royal throne including memories that a non-member of the family would not know. Then there is evidence of the general likeness of the two including Anderson’s fluency in all the languages that Anastasia was fluent in, results of preliminary handwriting analysis, formal recognition and acceptance of Anderson by several members of the royal family, and the infamous deformed foot that “both” women shared. These observations do not simply die at the hands of scientific “fact”.
One could begin to unravel these scientific “facts” with an analysis of what these facts are based on. Firstly, the DNA test that compared Anderson to the royal family was conducted in 1994 using a piece of intestine allegedly belonging to Anderson that had been cataloged and stored anonymously at a Virginia hospital since 1979. Besides the obvious question of whether or not the DNA would have honestly still been in tact some 16 years later, I can not help but wonder why her intestine would have been kept in the first place. Furthermore, it has been published and confirmed that as the tests were conducted in England, the intestine did travel from the United States to Europe via the mail which makes tampering a possibility. Though relevancy may be questioned, I find it important here to note that there is a monetary inheritance that has been split between distant relatives of Tsar Nicholas since 1917 as there was no proven Romanov family survivor at that time. Had Anderson or any other woman claiming to be Anastasia had been proved as such, the dispersal of nearly $80 million rightfully belonging to the Romanov family would have to be recovered from these relatives and provided to Anastasia. Who then can deny the role that money and power play in this situation? Obviously, there were several very important people who were thriving only so long as Anastasia was dead. This is what we call motive.
While something may have occurred in England either affecting the sample or the test itself, this is just one possibility; and those who believe science as undeniable, unarguable fact have the hardest time with its plausibility. However, an article published in January 2004 in the British medical journal Annals of Human Biology sheds light on another possibility which seems to be the most compelling line of conflicting evidence, as it is the most “scientific”. The scientists who wrote this article believe that the skeletons found in Siberia are not those of the Romanov family, which would explain why Anderson’s DNA was not a match. They cite “major violations of standard forensic practices” as well as “factual inconsistencies” and actually replicated the tests that had been done to confirm the skeletons’ identities using DNA instead from Grand Duchess Elizabeth, a sister of Tsarina Alexandra. They repeated their experiment four times and each time observed no match between the sequence that the Siberian scientists had indicated as that of Alexandra and the sequence that they had established for Elizabeth. These conclusions cast reasonable doubt upon the true identity of the remains found in Siberia, and the true identity of Anastasia Anderson.
Since Anderson died and was cremated in 1984, the chunk of intestine which may or may not even belong to her, was the last piece of DNA available to perform scientific tests on. For those that still seek an answer as to who Anastasia Anderson really was, science is no longer a concrete option. Summaries of observations must be formed individually, using logic and simple common sense.
References
1. http://www.freewarehof.org/manahans.html
2. http://www.dnai.org/d/index.html
3. http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/Russia/Anastasia.html
4. http://www.snowtao.com/mr/anastasi.htm
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The Anna Theory in 2022
Does anyone still interact with this? I'd be curious to see what people who believe Anna was Anastasia think about the last two bodies found Ekaterinburg and the fact that the Russian Orthodox Church still hasn't accepted them 15 years later.
Nope
Anna Anderson was an imposter, and the DNA you claim was corrupted still managed to match the Polish factory worker she was suspected to be. So clearly she was Polish.
photo
Hello. I enjoyed reading your article and agree with you wholeheartedly. DNA tests can be corrupted and there are too many people that lose a great deal if she had been officially accepted as the Grand Duchess Anastasia. I was wondering how to post a photo comparison i made with two photos readily available on line to anyone who wants to check it out. If one were open to the possibility that Anna Anderson could be Anastasia, these two photos would prove beyond a doubt that she was. The evidence would be staring you in the face. I have tried to drag the photos; cut and past as well. Perhaps you know of a way to do this that i do not. Also, apologies for the gaps and typos. I am still using Windows Vista and apparently it's not compatible with your web site. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to comment.
Anastasia's son
First off I believe Anna Anderson was Anastasia. DNA tests can be tampered with, and people do get greedy and there are some willing to sell out their own families.
I read James Blair Lovell's book and Anastasia indicated that she was never married to Alexander Tschaikovsky, that her child's father was a Bolshevik. Some people use the "no marriage records" thing to discredit Anastasia, but you have to look at what people's views were back then--she likely made that up in order to hide her shame, to hide the fact that her son was a child of rape.
Anna Anderson had the same scars Anastasia had. She had the same issue with her feet. I'm thoroughly convinced she was the real deal.
question
Hi there, l do have a question for your article. My grandfather lived and died in canada he claimed to be romanov to the day he died. He could tell things like anna, of wich people would not know. My grandmother wich knew him well even said on her death bed that it was true. Is that even a possibilty he knew where anna was and wanted to visit anna but his health was to deteraited to go unfortunetly. Could that be possible?
the romanov family
I am Anastasias great grandson. No one knows the truth but my family. if anyone would like to cosult wit meid be happy to talk. i have rightfully owned there inheritence. i will not say how much money or anything else I've inherited . relax the royal family still grows strong. we are very much alive.
Anastasia
I am an investigative journalist and have something similar in my life but not to do with Anastasia.
I feel very strongly that the circumstances surrounding the life of Anna Anderson point to her being Anastasia for a whole variety of reasons and yes, she does bear a resemblance to the family. I would not be surprised having met many heirs and claimants of other royals that there are vested interests that make it all a minefield for the people involved. There are fanatics surrounding them who do more harm than good and do everything within their power to make life difficult for people who have legitimate access to Royal identity. Some do not even dare go to the countries concerned for fear of being attacked by most professionals with access to their bodies, like doctors and dentists etc. Some have survived attempted run overs and who remember the drivers tensed and desperate as they go for the killing. Two spoke to me about their narrow escapes and deep fears which they later confessed to the authorities.
I cannot help thinking that the whole Anastasia claim sounds very plausible and that Anna could not possibly have gone through all that unless she was not only convinced but felt she was through real memory and not play acting. She has to be either Anastasia or Tatiana and I cannot see any evidence anywhere that these two actually died. All forensic exercises at that level of power including the Shroud charage, have to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Keep me posted. There are millions out there who want to know more.
Please contact me
What really happened in your opinion? I am wanting to hear this, i contacted a man below about this and the story of my own grandfather is posted below intitled "I Believe You". My grandfather was genetically linked to Anna Anderson and born in 1918 near or in Romania before Fanziska Schanzkowska went missing, so not Franziska's child. I am not saying you are wrong by any means, i am simply wanting to know more from your point of view. Do you have a way to get in contact off this forum? And would that be acceptable to do for you? if so my e-mail is Mojojojomonkeybrains123@gmail.com Thanks.
Fake
Are u real?
Physical Description
I am writing some fiction wherein the grand duchesses appear, but I have been having a devil of a time finding a physical description. Any recommendations?
Anastasia is dead
OK well i have done plenty of digging and Anastasia is dead. first off Anastasia had an accident when she was young she hit her head near the forehead and as a scar there, Anastasia always had bangs to cover her scar that she received because she was embarrassed by it. if you look up pictures of Anna Anderson she had no bangs and wore her hair back and NO scar on her forehead! If that was Anastasia wheres the scar? sorry if that was the true Anastasia being embarrassed by her scar i think she would keep wearing bangs throughout her life, since she was self conscious of it. anyway they look nothing alike especially you put two pictures in front of them. As for the deformed foot a lot people have it that, heck my aunt was born with a deformed foot too. also if you put a picture of her when she was !7 when she died the one with her being bald next to Ana no comparison at all.
Physical description of Anastasia
There is a perfect picture of on wikipedia.
Also she was 5'2", broad shoulders, muscular, athletic, thick, dry gritty reddish brown hair, green-brown hazel eyes, high forehead, no ear lobes, very small ears, narrow small nose, small mouth with a very skinny upper lip and somewhat fuller lower lips, hearth-shaped face, long fingers with shorter fore-fingers, skinny legs and arms and thin wrists and ankles, narrowish hips with a slightly thick waistline, asian-like slightly-spaced upper legs, long neck, two flat dark eyebrows (not unibrow).
Research Question
Any chance that birthmarks and/or cysts occurred often in this family line? What about related children born in the 80's with odd surgical markings?
Just curious!
~R
Anastasia
My 19 year old daughter looks more like Anastasia than Anna Anderson ever did. Yes my daughter is half Russian. She has the same ears, eyes, feet, shape face etc. Just saying.
romanovs has got a noble girl
romanovs has got a noble girl baby.they sent the baby to rasputins relatives in the wine basket (under the botles) They were take her bulgaria and they were give her a turkish family(bektashi religions((she did not make,join rutiels all her lifelong).the turkish family grove her.one day she maried and her husband and their 6 suns,2 douthers went in turkey 1953 and she died in turkey. she said again and again “I am gallers princess”all her lifelong may be feodravna may be one of the OTMA members was mother ofthe baby who can belive but god knows
romanovs has got a noble girl
romanovs has got a noble girl baby.they sent the baby to rasputins relatives in the wine basket (under the botles) They were take her bulgaria and they were give her a turkish family(bektashi religions((she did not make,join rutiels all her lifelong).the turkish family grove her.one day she maried and her husband and their 6 suns,2 douthers went in turkey 1953 and she died in turkey. she said again and again "I am gallers princess"all her lifelong may be feodravna may be one of the OTMA members was mother ofthe baby who can belive but god knows
I bless you
Anastatia mystery
actually i've learnt about it and i realised that actually Anastatia's earlobe looks rather the same as Anna Anderson or vice versa. Their handwriting is too rather alike... There are also other characteristics which are similiar.
Recent research shows that Anna Anderson which is the fake Anastatia is actually a Polish woman named Franziska Schanzowska. She has many characteristics which are similar to that of Anastatia.
olga (or sameone in her famyl) has got a noble girl
olga (or sameone in her famyl) has got a noble girl baby.she sent her rasputins relatives in the wine basket (under the botles) They were take her bulgaria and they were give her a turkish family(bektashi religions((she did not make,join rutiels all her lifelong).the turkish family grove her.one day she maried and her husband and their 6 sun,2 douther migration turkey and she died in turkey. she reaplayed again and again "I am gallers princess"all her lifelong
I bless you
olga (or sameone in her famyl) has got a noble girl baby
olga (or sameone in her famyl) has got a noble girl baby.she sent her rasputins relatives in the wine basket (under the botles) They were take her bulgaria and they were give her a turkish family(bektashi religions((she did not make,join rutiels all her lifelong).the turkish family grove her.one day she maried and her husband and their 6 sun,2 douther migration turkey and she died in turkey. she reaplayed again and again "I am gallers princess"all her lifelong
I bless you
What do you mean?
I mean no disrespect, i would just like to know where you heard this and what exactly you mean. It's very interesting. When did Olga give birth to this child? Also Anna Anderson claimed the Empress Alexandra had a fifth baby girl in 1903 i believe and the girl was given to a family in Holland. This girl grew up and her name was Alexandra De Gaaf Hemmes. You should check it out.
What if Anna Anderson is the Real Anastatia?
What if she really is Anastatia? If she had been in a mental hospital but the only thing she blutters is that she is the surviving anastatia, then would'nt it be nice if we know if she has a son/daughter which has the line of a Romanov?
I am, according to the US government and her, her heir.
All my life I have been under the control of the United States Government, apparently a collusion between the US and Soviets and then between the US and the Russian Federation. Control by every method imagineable. Quite nasty. Degrading. Humiliating. Not even the right to go to a city pool or walk down a sidewalk or drive without police harrassers on my tail trying to make me die by accident so they can collect an alleged bounty (regicide the contractor wishes to avoid, so it must be an accident). They can say I'm a nut. They can say I've done things THEY in fact did. It's pretty cruel, but lately I've been left alone in my old age. I don't know if I'm Anna's son, but she said I was, in 1970, even appointed me her heir, saying "it's all yours", whatever that meant. Many before her had all my life said I was and I never believed it; it all sounded strange to me and offensive to my loyalty to my adoptive parents. I was a dead ringer for Alexie my alleged uncle when I was six or seven. That and other pictures freaked out some folks. Maybe Anna thought I was an impostor. I certainly seek no Romano monvey. However, the Kennedies did the Bay of Pigs in 1961 to install me as a puppet like the Shah of Iran, about the time I was repeatedly being abducted from my home as practice for the final abduction. After that, they used cattle prods to erase my memory over several years. When I indicated (during my abduction by Wackenhut guards to Joe Kennedy's house) that I was looking for a pigstye where the kids at the get-together in the mansion kept the pet pigs, they realized I was talking about the Bay of Pigs and that someone knew about it other than they. I was abandoned and they all scattered. The cops who took me back to Auburn, Alabama kept the nice prince shirt I was given to wear in the bubble copter landing on Joe's lawn. Somewhere there is a JFK campaign photo of him holding me by the crotch in Auburn, Alabama. I've been treated like manure (pun=sar) since childhood, but I'm still alive. Robert Macnamara was largely responsible. People live their last names. His last name was Strange Macnamara and he was indeed screwy and abusively so. His book, the Fog of War, is pure psychotic babble justifying his murderousness. He had playmates of mine killed in front of me. I seek no vengeance. Just reconciliation for all the "pretenders", some of whom I suspect were body doubles for the Romanovs and had been electric shocked to make them forget, like I was. Anastasia said she lost a baby in the late forties. That would be me if I was kept small somehow for three to five years, about that time when frozen embryos were a new technique. God save us all from the powermad. If you think all this sounds crazy, well, reality can be crazy. It's also possible the Romanovs faked their own deaths and sent out a swarm of doubles and brainwashed victims. May even have ghosts working them planting accurate memories on some of these people. I was never Aleksei Romanov, but I've got memories as if. Yep, I doubt my sanity, but that's what everyone should do. Doubt their sanity. Be ever aware of their own ignorance and of the mass of questions that every fact begs. "His Imperial Majesty, Tsar Nicholas III, by appointment of the Tsarina Anna Anderson". I've been to Russia. They probably have my blood and DNA samples. God, they're renovating Alexandrovsky Palace. It's scary. I'm getting to old for this. Bunk me in the Children's Cottage and let me live out my days painting pictures. Or maybe just shoot me? Ive been shot. It was a head shot and it failed, deflected by my motorcycle helmet. Jesus be with me.
I totally understand!
All I have to say is that I agree with almost everything you have spoken about. I myself have memories of that of princess Anastasia I believe because I know certain things that I would say most people wouldn't know. I also am the spiting image of Anastasia and I'm saying that I looked like her from her younger pictures to her older pictures, I have looked like her my whole life. I am of a special blood line which is referred to as pure blood. Now of course I am not Anastasia because I am only 27 but I do believe that I am a relative of hers. I have been having a rough life for the past few years along with my children getting taken from me for no reasonable explanation but I'm beginning to believe that they took them because it has a great deal to do with all of this.
I believe you.
Kenneth Wade Wilson,
I truely believe that you could be a son of hers, the fact is though that Anastasia Anderson had a first son in Romania. His name was originally Alexei but was changed to Alexander before being given to an orphanage in a small town. I know this because my family has documents to prove it. i am Anna Anderson's great grand daughter, As many people believe they are a grand child or child (i noted one more person saying he was her great grandson in the comments) no one really believes us. I know my grandfather, her son Alexei, died in a hospital under very odd conditions in his early 70's. My father told me that my grandfather had told him that if he was ever taken to a hospital he would be killed once they had his blood. My grandfather was also a hemophiliac. While i realize that 70 is old for some one with hemophilia, the doctors at this hospital seemed to have accidentally punctured his lung during a biopsy of the lung that was not even supposed to happen. Nothing was wrong with his lungs. This hospital was near Birmingham, Alabama. I also live in Alabama, and i do not think that is a coincidence. I cannot speak for you but if someone came to my door tomorrow and said "You are a Romanov Heiress, here is 30 million Dollars." I would have to tell them to leave or i will call the police. They tried to kill my father after he put in a claim to the Russian Federation on the 70's. Some one tampered with his motorcycle and the steering prongs came loose. My father was a mechanic and did his own work. He almost died that day and was in a full body cast for close to a year. Shortly after that in the early 80's a litteral trained stunt man ran into my father while he was riding his motorcycle once more. He did research and this man was a professional. I am not sure how many other children of the romanovs may be out there, but i don't think we are all dead. I am also very curious to know your blood type, mine is not the same as the British moarchy, but is the same as the Czar's blood type and genome structure, but i am 3 generations out from royalty. Anyway i wish you the best of luck if what you say is true you would be my great Uncle. Honestly this is the first time i have ever posted about this ANYWHERE. I am too afraid of the same fate as you have had befalling me and my own family. Please be careful and know that if you are ever given the chance to claim the title it's purely up to you, we don't want it. Much love. God keep us, and peace to all who read this.
What was your grandfather's full name and job history?
You say some interesting things. I may have known your grandfather. Tell me more. Did he know Maria Rasputin in Los Angeles in the late 1970s? What year did he die? Send me pictures of him, please.
As for the Russian throne, I've always prepared for it but always used such preparation for my own amusement, not actually hoping realistically. I know a lot about how tsardom should be, but beaurocracy makes beaurocrats stupid and mean and they in the Russian Federation etc would have to be convinced I was worth their attention; it would be a futile exhausting candidacy, running for tsar, I think. Plus I'm getting old and Putin hasn't exactly invited me yet to go live in Livadia Palace---though he has, to his credit, put it inside Russian territory now---though by pissing off the Ukrainians whose love I would sorely need...sigh, all those beautiful feisty Russians and me a total unknown to them.
Kenneth Wade Wilson Reply
My grandfather's name was changed at least 2 times after adoption, but the name he went by for most of his life was William Edward (Ed) Martin. I had posted a more in detail text but I am guessing it was unexceptable for this site, as you are not supposed to give out contact information here. William worked and lived many places and was given a large sum of land in Alabama by the government, that he split among his wife's family. I know that he had been to L.A. at some point in time but as for maria rasputin i cannot be certain he knew her or not. He passed away in the early 90's, 94' or 95', when i was too young to remember a lot. I do not have a copy of his death certificate but i could get that easily. The last place he worked was for Hayes Aviation repairing commercial planes. I have only pictures of him as an older man but to me he resembles Prince Philip a little. Anna Anderson met with him in a hospital she was in some time in the late 70's or erly 80's and she aknowledged him as her son. She told him that, you know the man everyone talks about Alexander Tschaikovski, she told him that Mr. Tschaikovski was not his father, but had accepted him at the time Alexei was baptised in the catholic ceremony. She said she was raped by gaurds while in tobolsk, and that she had not been sure who fathered him untill she saw him, she said and i loosely quote (second hand from writings by my grandfather): "I can tell which one of those devils fathered you by seeing you." I am guessing indicating that she was treated this way by more than one gaurd in Tobolsk, which makes me physically sick to think about. But he became very angry after she said that and left the meeting in Virginia hating her. I was told he was given $100,000.00 in Russian money through the mail shortly after, i thought that was illegal, he immediately had the money exchanged for U.S. currency but kept it. In fact the house i live in now was bought with this money. I have seen the DNA testing result papers for my grandfather and Mrs.Anderson-Mannahan and they are conclusive that he is her son. I do not know what to think of her she seemed to not like the fact that my grandfather existed. No offense to you if you met her and cared for your mother. She just seems like she was cold to me, i guess i should be thankful for my own existance and my house, but i feel bad that i am only here because she was hurt. I am certain she was the grand duchess and that would make you the Grand Duke i believe at the very least.
Probably not the same man I
Probably not the same man I met who was the father of Micheal Gray, author of a book about him. Was the money Imperial or was it Soviet? I never got any, so Anna thought less of me! She was a tough cookie, annoyed in my case (tried to push me in front of a bus in Charlottesville by her and Jack's favorite restaurant) with the fact I'd signed over the crown to the people of Russia; she then became deflated and unenthusiastic about it all. I hope I gave her some peace of resignation. I participated possibly with Anna present in the USSR around 1975 in the making of the film Children of Theatre Street sponsored by Princess Grace who I suspect was eliminated for that later. The movie, The Other, was about me and meant to have a sequel/prequel but never much did. . Anastasia is rumored to haveafter Ekaterinberg been in the care of a high ranking soviet man formerly in the tsar's entourage/household. Anna was also witnessed by me to be in association with a a woman in the early to mid-1970s who may have been the real Anastasia. I rate secret service protection, I'm told, but probably am merely monitored---funny because I've never had a non-bizarre delusion about any of this, I believe it would be called. A non-bizarre delusion is when you notice, correctly, that certain people are monitoring or bothering you officially and secretly in some way. I wish the Russians would just be honest with me and leave me alone, if it's them and the U.S. I have as little interest in being an unfunded tsar as Tsar Micheal II did, who was finally shot in the woods for it despite his Bolshevik admirers and friends... There are narcissists probably causing all the annoyance of us pretenders. Did you know Jesus was a pretender to the Herodian throne? That the Romanovs and Windsors were pretenders too? Pretense of legitimacy is the big problem with monarchies. God save us.
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Really?
I doubt that she thought less of you, I do not think she cared for any of her children. I do not wish to be too in detail, but at least your father was most likely chosen by her instead of forced. I do not know who sent the Russian (Imperial) money to my grandfather, but it was most likely someone in the family for it being Imperial money. And you speak about Edith Seligman as the real anastasia, am i right? Yes i have often wondered about that woman, and the fact that she was the one who probably told Anna this story of Mr.Tschaikovski if Anna was just a body double. What i do not understand is the fact that if Anna was really Franziska, then why would she show signs of giving birth to a child, Franziska had never been pregnant to my or anyone else's knowledge as far as i am aware and was still in poland at the time of my grandfather's birth. That would indicate to me that maybe this other Anastasia was the one who birthed my grandfather. I am not sure as test results can be faked and it is all a very big messy. I do know oddly enough that through DNA testing my grandfather was genetically part jewish on his father's side. I am not sure how this would matter but i found it strange considering the Romanov's were not jewish and there were only Russians guarding them in Tobolsk to commit the crime. And yes there are historians who claim i think it was Michael Romanov I who was the pretender to the throne, not only that but Catherine the great's heir apparent was fathered by some other man than the then feeble minded Czar Peter III. Also the Current Queen Elizabeth II is actually of german descent right? Yet she rules the British monarchy. In truth, think for a minute about the whole situation and Anna from Virginia's odd behavior thoughout her life. It sound to me as if she may have been the real Anastasia and she suffered from PTSD. It makes memories fuzzy or even dissapear it also can cause the person to be withdrawn and or Angry/ Violent or strange behavior. Sounds like something one would suffer after being hurt and watching their family be murdered... As Anastasia did. Maybe the alternate Anastasia was actually the fake to seem more regal, and defined than the mentally tormented product of the real Russian Revolution. It is just my opinion. Anna Anderson believed that Mrs. Marga Boodts may have been Olga, but Marga refused to believe Anastasia was really alive as Anna Anderson, Edith Seligman, or any other claimant. We most probably will never know the truth here on earth, perhaps god may reveal it one day to us. Either way god bless you and may he keep the peoples of Russia and the United States from harm.
empathy
I believe your story--goverment agents often use mind control techniques to get what they want--keep the status quo. I can easily see the tsar arranging for his children to escape, and rich often used body doubles for security.I hope you can find peace in this strange world of greed.
Edith Seligman of Louisville Was Anastasia
It was all a trick. Edith Seligman's relatives delivered Anastasia's DNA (Edith Seligman's DNA) on clothes, hair, etc; the Russians did not find Anastasia's charred remains now; it is a lie and it is ludicrous; who would ever believe such nonsense; it is just propaganda
Mystery Solved
Anna Anderson and Body Double – Anastasia (mrs. Thaikovsky)calls herself Anna Anderson in Chalottesville, Va. and then Edith Weiss of Petersberg, Va. and then Edith Seligman of Louisville Ky.
Outline of Theory
Czar Nicholas sends hundreds of millions of dollars offshore to British banks this occurs before the revolution; he also fills the girls; under- garments with diamonds
Anastasia and Alexi are not killed in Ekaternberg; Anastasia is saved by diamonds in her undergarments and the body of her sister Maria that falls on her as they are being shot by Bolshevik firing squad; even so Anastasia is stabbed by bayonets and kicked and stomped
Anastasia and Alexi flee to Rumania with the help of one or more soldiers – Thaikovsy is one of them
Alexi dies from his wounds in Rumania or on the way to Rumania
Anastasia has a child with Thaikovsky– she lives in Rumania for awhile with her child and Thaicovsky – Thaicovsky is murdered
Anastasia flees to Germany by herself in hopes of finding her relatives – Aunt Irene, etc. Her child is placed in an orphanage
Anasata is is without money and she is cold and alone. Her beautiful family has been murdered. She has nobody. She has witnessed unspeakable evil. She gets depressed and jumps from a bridge in Germany in suicide attempt
She is fished out and is sent to an asylum
Relatives in German monarchy deny she is Anastasia and keep her in asylums for eight years send her to New York City with a man; she enters New York without going through immigration; there is no record of her entrance
She stays in New York with relatives for awhile – New York City and Long Island
They put her on a boat with a man to take her back to Europe to go back into the asylum
Instead, though, the boat goes to Virginia and a man disembarks with her at a port in Virginia – probably the port is around Virginia Beach, the boat drops off Anastasia in Virginia and goes on to Europe
Theory- she hooks up with Gleb Botkin in Virginia afterwords. Gleb Botkin is the son of the slain Dr. Eugene Botkin, who was murdered by the Bolsheviks along with the royal family in Ekaternberg (Gleb settles in Charlottesville at some point)
Anastasia calls herself Anna Anderson in Charlottesville, Va (U Va) and tells the press that she is Anastasia in late 1920s– a local newspaper picks up the announcement of Anna Anderson, i.e., that she is Anastasia and it carries a photo of Edith Seligman of Louisville Ky. (maiden name Edith Weiss of Louisville, Ky. “Anastasia” -i.e., Anna Anderson is under the custodial care of the Weiss family in Petersberg, Virginia
The determination is made to ship off Anna Adnerson./Edith Weiss to Louisville, Ky. where she marries Daniel Seligman psoing ss a Jewess and has two children, seven grandchildren and over twelve great grandchildren and counting. She is married to Daniel Seligman in an orthodox Jewish ceremony. They find a Polish woman with a close resemblance to Edith to go to the asylum in Europe; The Polish woman suffers from amnesia from an explosion in her factory – only the explosion occurred in March 1920 and Anastasia jumped off the bridge in Germany in February of 1920. Theory: there are two Anna Andersons - Anna Anderson 1 (Edith Seligman). The Polish woman is Anna Anderson 2. Anna Anderson 2 is a body double of Anna Anderson 1 – an imposter; Anna Anderson 2 lives and dies in Charlottesville, Va.She marries jack Manahan
Anna Anderson 2 is part of a scheme to get back the Romonov money being held in the British banks- the group funding the lawsuit is able to get information form Anastasia while at the same time protecting her in Louisville, Ky.
She and Daniel Seligman work together in Seligman Furs
The lawsuit in Europe form the Romonov fortune drags on for thirty years; the lawsuit is dismissed when DNA of Anna Adnerson 2 does not match DNA of Prince Phillip - Gleb Botkin and Edith Selgiman (the real Anastasia) are then killed in the same year - 1969 to 1970; Edith seligman is buriede in Bait Knesset synagogue cemetary in Louisville, Ky.
Anna Anderson 1 and 2 are two different people. The photo in google under the words "anna anderson" is a photo of Edith Seligman (anna anderson 1) - the photo under anna anderson in wikepedia is anna anderson 2 (the Polish worker)
Actually if you do some
Actually if you do some research it was proven this year that every member was accounted for. They found charred remains in a grave not to far from the burial sight what from there they proved it was anastasia and alexie
That was her
I agree with most of the opinions n this. I don't belive that the remains found were anastasia's family. Anna Anderson was anastasia. physical resemblance; others still, her knowledge of the royal throne including memories that a non-member of the family would not know. She was her, thats just how it is.
Real
If you have any questions whether Anna Anderson was Anastasia - read the book - Anastasia - the Long Lost Princess!
anna
i rekon that this is still alive well ...... not now i think she got a way tho
and lived a nother life bad spelling sorry
because you believe that
because you believe that Anna Anderson was the real Anastasia does not mean its so. it dosnt matter anyway shes dead no disrespect to her but she had one child that is unknown of his where abouts so even if she was the Grand Duchess Anastasia its to late foe her now
it wouldnt be to late because
it wouldnt be to late beacause there is a sum of 80 million dollars that would belong to her amongust other things plus she would famous, but there is a another rumor stateing that the rest of the family that was not kill fleeded to the U.S. to stay with some other family members.
I guess your wrong
Now all of the children have been dna identified so I guess you are wrong about her being Anna Anderson. The original gravesite was the Czar, Czarina, and 3 princesses and now the second site found confirmed the bodies of Alexei and Maria. All have now been accounted for so your theory as grand as can be is way off base. What would be the motive for lying about it? Everything is a grand conspiracy isn't it? Dna should be thrown out the window because one person thinks that "logic" and "common sense" are a more reliable source? I will stick with dna.
YOU'RE wrong.
Actually... There were three older sisters and Anastasia... Anastasia was never found, though Anna Anderson is not Anastasia... Anastasia could be alive or dead, no one knows.
Anastasia
if Anastasia was alive, she'd be over 100 years old
I loved the disney movie
I loved the disney movie "Anastasia"
and now that im older i love learning facts about the real person.
I studied Anastasia as just
I studied Anastasia as just an easy essay topic but came to learn that she was infact a very interesting girl and a lot like myself i enjoyed reading about her a lot and the Romanov family.
scientific "facts" or ... ?