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The Worst Disease You Can Get: Fatal Familial Insomnia and the I-Function

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Pierluigi Gambetti, one of the discoverers of the condition known as fatal familial insomnia (FFI), claims that it is "the worst disease you can get." (5) Given the vast number of diseases in the world, Gambetti's claim seems farfetched at first glance, maybe even selfish; who wouldn't want to take credit for discovering one of the worst diseases in the world? But a quick overview of the disease presents solid evidence in favor of the claim- and some interesting insights about the many tasks of the I-function.

FFI has been discovered in only 28 families worldwide; it is an autosomal dominant gene mutation, meaning that a parent with the disease has a fifty percent chance of passing it on to his or her child (2). That much is predictable. But every other aspect of the disease is wildly unpredictable, forcing family members to make difficult decisions. If parents have such a high chance of passing on the disease, one might ask, why don't they simply choose not to have children? The answer: FFI , unlike many other fatal genetic conditions, doesn't appear until the victim is middle-aged, and tests to see whether parents carry the FFI mutation only recently became available (1). Here the first questions of the I-function, and the first paradoxes of the disease, appear. If this disease occurred in childhood, natural selection would have long ago done away with it. Because it does not strike until middle age, however, parents who may be carriers must make difficult decisions about childbirth. Paradoxically, it is in the parents' best interest to have more children, in order to ensure that at least some live FFI free into old age. More children, however, also means more potential FFI cases- a tough paradox for the I-function to work through.

Next, the symptoms. FFI baffled investigators for years, because certain symptoms resemble encephalitis, end-stage alcoholism, and dementia, among other conditions (1). But the hallmark of FFI, which the aforementioned conditions don't necessarily show, is the complete inability to sleep. The brain wave patterns that appear on FFI patients' EEGs go up and down wildly, in a pattern completely unlike the normal sleep-wake cycle; they may still show patterns indicative of REM sleep at night, but they do not pass through the sleep stages that typically precede REM, and they can still move while in the REM stage (5). There are also unbelievable highs in pulse and blood pressure, excessive sweating and an eventual loss of coordination and other gross motor skills (including speech) before the victim finally falls into a coma-like state and dies (1). But, most horribly, the thinking portions of the I-function remain intact, even as the rest of the body deteriorates (4). Because FFI is invariably fatal, patients understand that they will die, can talk and write freely about their coordination deteriorates and understand their fate up until their death (5). Some diseases, like Alzheimer's disease, are tragic because their victims lose the ability to describe their decline; in these diseases, the I-function deteriorates along with the physical body. But FFI is tragic for precisely the opposite reason; it leaves the I-function intact, even when its victims are clearly in physical agony.

Even the agent that causes FFI defies conventions. It is a prion, a form of infectious protein. Humans naturally produce thousands of intricately folded proteins, and the vast majority of them are harmless. But if one protein happens to misfold in a harmful way, it can trigger a chain reaction, leading other proteins to produce similarly harmful forms; the immune system cannot counteract the chain, since it does not see the proteins as infectious agents (4). The exact mechanisms behind this process, and the reasons why it should be fatal, aren't well understood. The effects of prions on the brains of FFI victims, however, are well-documented. In most areas of the brain, FFI victims show remarkably little damage. The thalamus, however, is utterly destroyed, full of holes (3). Given this evidence, one might try to make the argument that the I-function cannot be located in the thalamus; after all, FFI victims remain completely able to think and comprehend the world, even as the prions destroy that part of the brain. However, the I-function isn't limited to one section of the brain, and it does not only control thinking and speech. Indeed the sleep-wake cycle, so damaged in FFI victims, is also regulated in part by the I-function; people simply tend to forget this fact, because sleep feels like such a natural part of our existence. Only in unusual cases, like the severe insomnia of FFI, do we remember the I-function's role in this cycle.

FFI, then, presents yet another example of why it's useless to try to pin down one precise area where the I-function lies. One can see from FFI victims that the parts of the I-function that have to do with language use and comprehension, with naming people and objects in the world, probably aren't located in the thalamus. But the thalamus must play some role in the sleep-wake cycle, judging from FFI victims' brain damage, and the I-function aids in sleep-wake cycles as well; one cannot give an exact location for a function that performs so many diverse tasks.

 

Web Sources:

1) Case Study: Fatal Familial Insomnia; Location: Venice, Italy; To Sleep No More

2) Dying for Sleep: Researchers Track the Cause of a Rare but Fatal form of Insomnia

3) Fatal Familial Insomnia

4) Biofundamentals: Protein Folding and Turnover

Non-Web Source:

1) The Family That Couldn't Sleep: A Medical Mystery, by D.T. Max. Random House Publications, New York, 2006.

Comments

Serendip Visitor's picture

melatonin

I assume you've tried melatonin? It's very safe and helps most people.

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HI

I feel your pain had it all my 42 years of life. I don't have friends it's hard for me to hold down a jobs never had a real relationship. Feel free to email me if you want

gato's picture

Jesus

Hold on Jesus of Nazareth. This is our tribulation; never give up on Jesus of Nazareth. Accept Him as your only SAVIOR, after you recognize you are a sinner like me and that you repent from all your sins. Ask Him to come into your heart, and never surrender again to Satan. Hey! This is the way it is. I am sorry if I sound religious; I am not; I am Jesus Christ child.

Layce's picture

You assume TOO MUCH

Gato, I AM A CHRISTIAN!!!!!! AND I HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. And I would NEVER say I was SORRY for being or sounding religious. This is not the venue to be preaching. You are more likely to turn off the individual you are speaking to with this kind of ministry. Even though I know you mean well, PLEASE STOP! until you learn how to approach people correctly. Pain is not caused by God. It is a body function. And YES before you start thumping your Bible I am well aware of the healing powers of our Father.........I am not here to debate your belief with HIM. I pray for you, for more understanding for your brothers and sister; I pray you show more compassion; I pray you for you to STOP using the Lords name to brow beat your brothers and sisters into salvation. I pray that your pompous ass becomes humbled in a way that you become a better believer and His purpose exposed to you through reading His word. YOU REALLY DONT GET IT YET. YOUR ACTIONS SHOW ME THAT. I would suggest you pick up your Bible and read it from cover to cover. God Bless You

Brendan's picture

To those with sleeping

To those with sleeping problems bragging about not drinking - Try adding 2-3 drinks of alcohol before adding to bed with low sugar content - it will NOT negatively affect your health and you will sleep better.

Serendip Visitor's picture

Hi. Accept Jesus as your

Hi.

Accept Jesus as your personal saviour. I am 30 years of age. Have been suffering from insomnia for a long time before I believed in Jesus and gave over my life to Him 12 years ago. I have had many nights walking around and watching family members sleeping and longing to be like them. Today all that is over. I have a good and peaceful sleep each and every night. This is no joke.

God bless.

Serendip Visitor's picture

no you just have insomnia!

no you just have insomnia! you said you tried to stay awake when you were younger......TRIED! unfortunately bad sleeping habits in childhood can lead to sleeping problems throughout your life, and when those sleeping habits are combined with stressful/traumatic situations it can lead to....well the situation you're in. i have the same problem so i know how you feel. i recently had to go to an appointment on my fifth day with no sleep and i felt relatively ok even though i was hallucinating a bit, but as soon as i stepped outside i lost it and heard like 100 voices screaming at me the whole time i was outside, and i managed to get lost on the way there even though its pretty much a straight road! then i thought 2 girls were planning to mug me so i started running like a right muppet! and just now ive been up for 58 hours =(

also....sorry to hear about your past =(

Ricardo 's picture

My friend! I am sorry, I am

My friend! I am sorry, I am sorry, I am sorry...! I will pray for you. Please, pray and ask God for forgiveness and ask Jesus of Nazareth to come into your heart. If you don't want to hear the name of Jesus of Nazareth, I am sorry; I won't respond to your responses. I'm still going to pray for you. This thing that we have will make us stronger because in hell nobody sleeps. ANd you and I are going to HEAVEN. Trust me! Trust in God.

Serendip Visitor's picture

jesus of nazareth??

wow you are really ignorant. you're praying won't do anything for me because long ago i decided to build a barrier around me to protect myself from morons. it doesn't block out christianity, just morons.

Evangelyne's picture

About My Friend.

Ok, so I stumbled onto this website while researching insomnia for a friend. I'm starting to really worry about her. 2 weeks ago out of nowhere she lost her ability to sleep. And this is a lady who loves to sleep. She went to a doctor and he gave her meds that had no effect. She's lost at least 20 lbs in 2 weeks time. 2 weeks ago my friend's belly was so big people thought she was pregnant. Today her belly is bikini flat. The weight loss is so extreme it's jarring. Plus, there seems to be something wrong with her internal temperature regulation. She gets the hot flashes of all hot flashes with sweating and her face gets all red. She says it feels like she's burning up. We were talking about maybe a sleep clinic and then yesterday she had a seizure. A big one. She broke several toes and bit halfway through her tongue. Now she's making an appointment with a neurologist which I think is a good idea. But I'm torn about this FFI. My friend was adopted so there is no way of knowing if her family is affected by this gene but even still, the chances of her having FFI are negligible. So should I tell her about this FFI stuff and suggest she get a test done for it when she sees the neurologist or keep my mouth shut rather than scare the pants off her about some rare disease she almost definitely doesn't have. I mean, if the neurologist thinks there is a chance it's FFI he'll do the test himself right? But what if it's so rare he wouldn't even think to test for it? But even if she does have it, there is no treatment so early detection isn't going to help. I just don't want to scare her needlessly. What do you think?

Serendip Visitor's picture

did your friend have ffi. I

did your friend have ffi. I think i do.
Jennifer Lockey
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Serendip Visitor's picture

Hot flashes and insomnia

Hot flashes and insomnia could be a sign of menopause? The fits should definitely get checked out though. Tell your friend good luck - think positive and you'll get through it! :)

Anonymous's picture

The odds of any of you having

The odds of any of you having FFI are really slim considering that it only affects about 25 famillies world-wide. There are other forms of insomnia that are not FFI. I honestly hope that you all can overcome your insomnias. I sometimes have insomnia, but it's not chronic. It's just stress related.

Serendip Visitor's picture

The odds of any of you having

I think it's 40 families world-wide and 25 in the U.S.
I've been learning about it in a psychology class i'm taking
but i could be wrong

NekoGaurdian's picture

insomnia

this is the wrost kind of insomnia ive seen happen, mainly due to more then a month of no sleep
i have insomnia and feel great but tired
it may even be good for you besides the stres

NekoGaurdian's picture

insomnia

this is the wrost kind of insomnia ive seen happen, mainly due to more then a month of no sleep
i have insomnia and feel great but tired
it may even be good for you besides the stres

Anonymous's picture

fear

If anyone has any kind of anxiety and insomniac tendencies, this is the worst possible thing you can read about. It's like a horror movie. I believe in the movie "The Machinist" the main character has this. Also "Fade".

Loen's picture

Hi every1 hope this will help you! =)

Hi everyone! I'm 16 and I'm in Biology Honors, I was assigned to research this for a project and write a brochure, it's a super terrible disease, but like the article said only 28 families have the disease, so I highly doubt that if you are qustioning having it, that you acutally do, you'd probably be in worse shape then not sleeping. I didn't read this whole article so sorry if it says this in it, but other symptoms are like hallucinations, phobias, panic attacks, rapid weight loss, dementia, and later muteness and like you don't respond to things. And You SHOULDN'T take sleeping pills for this cause it just build up stuff on the Thalamus which controls your sleeping ability. The plaque stiff that builds up is from this one protein changing into something else and it just doesn't fumstion. So Yea! sorry if I was repettative but maybe this helped maybe not haha but good luck all! =)

Tom Fitzgerald's picture

family disease

My wife has this disease in her family. Her mom and aunts and cousins have died from it. We are the family in Maine that the BBC has documented. If anyone has any updated info please let us know or sent to my web page at www.nefi.org.or mitasger@maine.rr.com Thank you

Cagney's picture

Freaked out

I have had some kinda weird insomnia and it has been going on for 7 days now. it's really freaking me out and it's weird. NO BENZO's work and the 15mg remeron doesn't even work. and i ain't one to take much meds.... no one in my family has this or even regular insomnia so i don't know what to do... i just started taking LOPRESSOR about a month ago and it's 50mg a day. maybe it's my LOPRESSOR? i have to take that for my inappropriate sinus tachycardia syndrome............

Anonymous's picture

FFI and insomnia

I have sever insomnia and have had it for 10 years. I am also Bipolar. If i don't take any slepping pills i never go to sleep. I take high doses of triazadone 150mg to 300mg as well as two 1 mg xanax and i also take ambien 10mg. All this for 4 to 6 hours sleep. So yes this is a horror of a diesease and it scares th he doble hockey stick out of me. Whan i wake up i feal very tired, like i haven't really slept, i Fill like i have been surgicaly sedated. I just turned 40 and i don't know why i can't sleep without massive amounts of medication.

Anonymous's picture

I know how you feel I've had

I know how you feel I've had sleeping problems for about 5 years now I sleep 1to 3 hours a day I can't sleep at night or hold down a job! All because I saw the documentary on the man who couldn't sleep. I guess what I'm saying I the mind is a powerfully thing.

irene @ insomnia cures's picture

FFI is EXTREMELY RARE

To the above comments, believe me, the chance that you actually have this problem is 1 in billions, so relax and take an ambien ;)

At medical school I had read a chapter on this and had chills sent up my spine. I think I would rather poke hot needles in my eyes than suffer from this. I would be interested to know if there is any treatment available for it by now, as I remember no medications seemed to show any significant signs of treating it.

And I think that given the possibility I could hand this down to my children I would certainly think twice before having kids.

cagney's picture

this is a horrible disease

this is a horrible disease and i wonder why on earth there is such a horrific thing like this? who made this disease? they did not have this before the 1900's did they???? well i have insomnia... i have a hard time falling asleep at night so my doctor put me on remeron and it helps a lot so now i get 9 hours of sleep each night... maybe y'all should try remeron??

Anonymous's picture

You DON'T have the disease

Ok RELAX! no one here has the disease. You all just suffer from Chronic Insomnia. Yes not sleeping is terrible. I've had insomnia before for about 4 months but I didn't die! If you has FFI you would be showing other symptoms such as loss of coordination so RELAX! that is the key word

Anonymous's picture

5 months no sleep

i have not slept in 5 complete months and im starting to worry. im not showing any symptoms other than not sleeping at all.ive taken hydroxizine and rozerem and none have worked even slightly. what other meds might be good for this chronic insomnia?

Serendip Visitor's picture

no sleep

Are your sleeping problems getting any better? I as well went months and months with absolutely no sleep. I am a totally different person. Have you tried ambien 10, or seroquel?

Anonymous's picture

meds

I take ambien 10 mg plus two other high dose meds to go to sleep Maybe the ambien will work for you.

nquixote's picture

me too

I'm going through something like this too. Harley, are you still having your symptoms?

Anonymous's picture

i have been unable to sleep

i have been unable to sleep since may 08, now its sept im possitive i have some form of ffi, i had all the symtoms from supper panic attacks for two months with no help from sleeping pills, sweating and weight loss and motor skills are getting worse, my head feels like jello but i still can remember and think as good as ever which is the worse part of this hell, i have enough money to last till june but i dont think my body will last that long its in gods hands now

Anonymous's picture

You don't have FFI

OK let's go through some facts. FFI is gentically inherited. Do you have parents? Did they have FFI? Did they have Insomnia? Did they develop Insomnia around 40-50 years of age then 5-6 months later slip into a coma and die? If you said yes to ALL of these questions then you can CONSIDER the SUPER ULTRA SLIM POSSIBILLITY that you have FFI!!!!! When you sleep your body becomes paralysed and therefore the brain does not have to worry about you physically and it rests and recharges ready for the next day. When you don't sleep your brain is trying to work at normal capacity but it can't as it is not "recharged". When you have not slept for a pro longed period your brain is trying to work fully at "Low battery" so yeh as a result PHYSICALLY your body is slowed as the brain lacks general motor skills. But phsychologically its still functioning pretty much the same. So memory is not affected. You've put yourself into a psychological state where you BELIEVE you won't fall asleep and therefore you won't but if you tell yourself you WILL fall alseep then you will. Try sleeptracks. This is NOT an advertisement

Susan's picture

FFI not only hereditary

Fatal Familial Insomnia has been reported very rarely to affect people with no known genetic link to the disease. Like other prion diseases such as Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, it can occur sporadically. I would say this is extremely rare but it can happen.

Anonymous's picture

FFi non inherited form

I to may be going through this, my body has not fallen asleep on its own for 3 months.I', loosing weight memory and motor skills.My eyes aren't tearing. Did you know there was a Noninherited form of this disease?
How are you doing?
Harley

Jack's picture

FFI non inherited form

Your question is exactly the question I'm asking. I'm pretty sure my case isn't genetic as I'm the only one who is suffering from this illness. I've had it for 10 months now, I undergo no REM or NONREM sleep at all. I've gone as long as 65 hrs with no sleep whatsoever and that included 10 hrs (totally awake) at the sleep clinic in UBC. The rest was flying to and flying from UBC. Once I got home I stayed up until 11pm, which was 65 hrs awake, and said enough was enough. I took a 7.5 mg zopiclone sleeping pill and it knocked me out for 4 hrs, upon which time I took another zopiclone and let it knock me out for another approx 3 hrs. So, 7 hrs total being knocked out by zoplicone. I don't know if I have FFI but maybe I've got an offshoot which doesn't need the familial aspect to it. Zopiclone knocks me out but I don't sleep naturally when I am out. Will it be fatal for me? Do I consider suicide as a viable ending to this or let nature take it's course and turn me into a mewing, drooling, apparition of a man that is curled up at deaths door.

Anonymous's picture

Extraordinarily unlikely that anyone writing here is affected

For all of you suffering with the fear that you have this disease, you should be assured that you most certainly do NOT.

Only a relative handful of people on the planet have ever had this disease. You are more likely to win the lottery WHILE being struck by lightning after tripping over a hunk of a fallen meteor on the way to go pick up the new car you won in the latest radio contest.

Anonymous's picture

i know 2 ppl with it

in responce 2 the comment titled "Extraordinarily unlikely that anyone writing here is affected" he/she said "Only a relative handful of people on the planet have ever had this disease. You are more likely to win the lottery WHILE being struck by lightning after tripping over a hunk of a fallen meteor on the way to go pick up the new car you won in the latest radio contest."
yet i know 2 ppl that have it in fact one of them was my girlfriend and she died from it and her sis has it and she is now haveing a kid so even that kid might have it.

Anonymous's picture

Severe Insomnia following stroke

Does anyone know if it is possible to stroke your ability to sleep? None of the docs can tell me. In the rare instance that I do fall asleep it lasts less than 45min and I have terrible hypnopompic hallucinations with no paralysis.

Anonymous's picture

The brain has many sleep

The brain has many sleep centers, and it is certainly possible for a stroke to damage any one or more of these. I would suggest you consult with a neurologist for an examination and have an MRI done. It may or may not be possible to gain help for whatever you find, but it may also give you a modicum of peace to know what has happened. Don't lose hope either! The brain can take a long time to heal, but it's ability to overcome injury can also be quite remarkable. Best wishes to you.

Anonymous's picture

The short answer is that I

The short answer is that I don't know. But I had a stroke and still have trouble sleeping more than one year later, though my problems are not nearly as severe as yours. In my case, I believe it was caused by the nurses in hospital continually waking me up to check if my brain was still functioning normally in the weeks following the stroke, and after that my own worry about not being able to sleep keeping me awake. So what I'm saying is it's possible your insomnia could be caused by something other than the stroke, though it could be related. I also have heard that people who have had their brain 'interfered with' often suffer from insomnia. I was told just to 'be patient', and it should settle down eventually. Not very helpful advice, IMO, but just passing it on.

Anonymous's picture

Thank you for the voice of reason Philip

In the world we live in today, It is really a shame that people are still so quick to assert their archaic religious beliefs as being the answer to everything. This disease is one that will most likely evolve itself to extinction as I'm sure many other rare genetic diseases have done in the past. This is simply a genetic disorder. It is not a "punishment" from God... just to humor this concept, wouldn't only the worst "sinners" in the world be struck with such a devastating disease? We understand exactly what causes this and unfortunately until gene therapy becomes a reality it's virtually untreatable.

Throughout history we have had a countless number of problems there was no answer to. Naturally when there is no easy answer, It's simple to blame it on a supernatural entity that is all-knowing and all-powerful. As we progress through history these problems get factual, scientific solutions that allow us to conquer them and succeed as a species. Because of this It is truly sad that there is ridiculously large portion of society that is stuck in the dark ages. Perhaps that sort of thinking is easier to grasp then how complex the world actually is. Whatever the reason, please, do the rest of us a favor and keep it to yourself. The people that can look outside the box will be out solving the worlds problems while the tunnel-vision religious group is waiting till 2012 to prove us all wrong.

Hesavedme's picture

true science

The fact is that God does exist but he does not make people sic. God doesn't do that, Satan does. And if you would actually study things like the fossil record or the fact that 0* any number allows equals 0 kills any theory besides intelligent design ie GOD made everything. But the point of this discussion is to comfort people in distress and put at ease those who don't have this horrible disease. So lets all be civil and caring please

Philip's picture

I take a dim view of the above assertion......

We are living in an era where we understand more now than we have ever understood about the workings of the human body, about the origins of the universe, about the formation of galaxies and other celestial bodies, and the world in which we live. This is not to state or to imply that we know everything that there is to know, or that we are even close to understanding everything that there is to understand -- but we are in a position now to understand that physical diseases have causes that can be determined, and that many of these diseases can be treated.

I suffer from an inherited genetic disorder too. My disorder is not nearly as horrible or as terrible as FFI, but it has caused me a great deal of physical pain. In short, my connective tissue is insufficiently elastic. This leads to serious impacts to multiple organ systems, including my bones, my heart, my joints, my skin, my skeletal structure, my eyes, and other systems. I have been placed on an aggressive pain management schedule involving oxycodone and other opiates / opioids, and I undergo regular CT scans, MRI scans, and echocardiograms to diagnose and monitor any potential cardiac abnormalities that may arise (and are eventually likely to arise).

This is not a punishment from God, and it makes me cringe to read accounts by other people who revert to the archaic belief that physical illness is a form of punishment for sin. I am openly gay, and have heard fundamentalist preachers and ignorant laypersons assert that HIV infection is a form of punishment from God (I am lucky in that I learned about HIV and its transmission before coming out and before becoming sexually active – knowledge of how to prevent infection combined with a determination never to engage in unsafe sex was the only thing that kept me from becoming infected). Physical diseases are not punishments – they are processes. Some diseases are caused by microbes. Other diseases are caused by faults in the genome of the patient (as in my case). People living in Africa who suffer from such diseases as cholera, kwashiorkor, and malaria are not being punished for sins; they are the unlucky victims of poverty and starvation.

This is not the time to browbeat a person suffering from FFI – or to browbeat yourself. FFI is a prion disease caused by two point mutations resulting in two amino acid substitutions that should not occur. That is the bottom line. FFI is a tragedy, and it should be acknowledged as such. The last thing that persons suffering from this disease (whether directly or indirectly) need is pious sermonizing by people who wish to return medical understanding to the dark ages.

PHILIP

Anonymous's picture

This illness is from Satan.

This illness is from Satan. I might have it. I lost ability to sleep in 2006 after a terrible sin I committed. I felt how God left me and Satan took over my body, soul and spirit. He tried to kill me but God came back to stop him. But he left me and left me some of his demons and this (FFI?) illness. My doctor refuses to have some test done about this FFI. No sleeping pills have helped me. Seroquel and Lorazepan are the only pills that are helping me have a 2 to 4 hours sleep since 2007. Just pray, repent and ask for forgiveness and lets see if it is the Will of God to save us or to let Satan kill us for our sins. Nobody wants to beleive in God anymore and Satan is taking over. He made me see and feel HELL when he entered my body. It was horrible. Maybe you might consider deliverance ministry or exorcism. They didn't work for me...and I feel like dying little by little every day. I am so sorry I left Jesus of Nazareth when I had the chance to be with Him. This illness could also be the result of generational sin.

Anonymous's picture

From Satan? Really?????

You have lost your mind. No, honestly; it's true. think about looking into whether or not you might be bi-polar. Sadly you seem to believe that you have a relationship with God/Satan that is unrealistic.

Just so you know I am in no way religious. Lets say there's a God, just maybe. Isn't there a pile of other things for him/her/it to be concerned about than your sin? And for the sake of argument, lets pretend there is a Satan too. Wouldn't he/she/it want the souls of more signifigant persons? I don't know, but they sound like awfully busy folks to be worrying about destroying your life.

Go see a psychiatrist...you honestly need help. I say this with sincerity.

Good Luck

Anonymous's picture

FFI

look I'm not saying anything mean or that god isn't real or shit like that, but this god figure, is said in the bible to love you for your ideas and way of thinking, he doesn't punish until your dead therefore your comment is invalid, also, its rude and inconsiderate for people to say out load how people are wrong to not go to god, i don't believe in him and its awkward for people like me who aren't in that religion to read this stuff, and i would hope that all people would try to keep shouting there religion at a minimum.. because not everyone is of one religion, there are to many religions out there for you to assume all religions are your own

Anonymous's picture

You are horrible

I can't stand people who are willing to spout psychobabble over the internet on a serious forum. God doesn't exist and neither do demons or the devil. Grow up and stop believing in imaginary friends.

Hopefully there aren't too many gullible people out there who will listen to you.

You don't have FFI, youd be pretty much dead by now and even the most intense drugs wouldn't work to give you those 2-4 hours per night. You don't have a disease you're just insane. :)

Heres hoping you wake up from your crazy jesus-coma

Don't worry's picture

Even Peter was forgiven after he sinned knowingly 3 times

Don't loose faith, my brother, God can forgive you. There is not a sin in this world caused by our weakness that can't and won't be forgiven. Only direct sins against God are unforgivable.If you repent, there is no problem.
And about the other comments regarding the "call to reason": I wish you would never have to find out that God exists by Satanic possession.
We don't know squat about the human body or the human spirit. The "modern" science doesn't recognize the existence of the spirit, so, the modern science doesn't know anything about what makes us what we are. the bible is to be trusted more than any science book.
Modern medicine only gives pills that annihilate the symptoms or help the body get well by itself. And when that is not possible, we take the organ out.

Modern medicine can't treat the cause of a disease.

Anonymous's picture

No sin is unforgiveable.

God is a spirit of forgiveness, he will accept us if we come to him.

Anonymous's picture

Comment about FFI

I have a client and friend who is suffering with chronic insomnia and severe depression. Her insomnia has been since December, and here it is April. She tells me she cannot sleep at all, and that she feels that she has lost the ability to sleep. I was searching the internet trying to find something to help her. Sleeping pills don't work...nothing seems to give her any sleep...day or night. After reading about FFI, I wondered if possibly this could be what is wrong with her. She seems alert for someone who has not slept in so long. I would be a walking zombie after just a few days without sleep. I am desperate to find help for her. The doctors just keep prescribing narcotics to make her sleep, but they do not help. And she is really scaring me with her talk of not being able to take it any more. I have no idea if there is anyone in her family who has had a similar condition. I will be asking her some questions in this area tomorrow. I do not plan to share anything with her about the FFI until I see if she has this in her family history. And then it would be something that I would have to really put some thought into how to get her the blood tests without telling her about the fatality of this condition.

Today I awoke and she was very much on my heart. I prayed that God would help her, and that if she did have FFI, He would not allow her to suffer a very long, drawn out death. After praying, I layed there a little while. Then the thought came to me that systemic enzymes could be the answer. They help the body to breakdown and utilize proteins....and we loose the ability to manufacture enough of these enzymes as we age. So maybe the reason FFI doesn't strike people till they are around 50 or 60 is because they have enough enzymes in the body most of their lives, and it takes this long for the body to become depleted and the damage to start displaying symptoms. I have no idea if this is totally off the wall. Possibly it is. I am not a medical professional. I am only someone who tries to do things naturally, and I read a lot and try a lot of things to help seemingly hopeless conditions. I just wanted to find someone to tell this to so it could be looked into to see if it made any sense at all. If this could help these people, then I would be so wrong in not sharing this idea.

Hopefully someone who can truly determine if this could be helpful will read this or it can be passed on to someone who can.

I have given this lady some systemic enzymes to take between meals, and am going to monitor her progress.

Sincerely

Jean Terry

Anonymous's picture

She does not have FFI

The reason she is alert during the day is because her brain is producing seratonin, the "stay awake" hormone. Perscribe her melatonin. It is the opposite of Seratonin. It may help