http://www.bayswan.org/Polpage.html
The second is the testimony of a former brothel worker who is in favor of the decriminalization of prostitution, which she argues would decrease the exploitation of sex workers by eliminating the need for brothel houses.
http://www.bayswan.org/Laura.html
I wanted to give you guys a little information on Megan's Law to read for Tuesday. Please checkout this website:
http://www.meganslaw.state.pa.us/soab/cwp/browse.aspa=3&bc=0&c=46295&soabNav=|
This website is the Sex Offenders Assessment board website for PA. Please read the following sections: History of the Law (both Federal and State), Investigation, and PLEASE take the "Interactive Quiz."
Also, to balance that out with a more objective view, please read this very short article:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/meganslaw021113.html
This is an article on the ABC news website. (World News tonight did a piece on Megan's Law just this past week, so this topic, though almost 10 yrs in the making, is still right in the middle of political and media debates.)
I think the public vs private aspects of sex laws is what we want to focus on, so here are some questions to think about while you read our materials:
*what effects do public sex laws have on private sex lives? what does it mean that a public institution (the govt) is making decisions about your (private) sex life?
*do you think it is right for someone to possibly write a law regulating how/should you be having sex?
*(this is jess's question)Is the public discusion of these laws pornographic/obscene?
Finally, it would be great if everyone could print out/ bring in an example of ONE thing on one of the websites that you had a reaction to--- this could be something that made you think, a law that you didnt know exisited, something you have a question on, something you want to discuss further... anything that sparks you in any way...
For example, someone could bring in a print out of the definitions of rape and sexual assault from the website Jess provided and raise the question: what is the diff. between the two? and then as a class we can examine/ assess the lang. and/or discussion together in class...
For those examples we dont get to in class, you could use them for your weekly posting! :)
Okay, this is long enough! Hope it all makes sense!
This week's posting should answer (one or more of!) Elisa's questions above...
and/or share your thoughts about the upcoming session on sex in the media.
I found it ironic that the following lecture will be happening just as we are discussing sex and the law:
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1.00 - Carpenter 21
Kaja Silverman (Department of Rhetoric, University of California,
Berkeley): "The Realism of Love"
Anne
11.TOO DARN HOT
PAUL:
It's too darn hot,
It's too darn hot.
I'd like to sup with my baby tonight,
And play the pup with my baby tonight.
I'd like to sup with my baby tonight,
And play the pup with my baby tonight,
But I ain't up to my baby tonight,
'Cause it's too darn hot.
PAUL AND BOYS:
It's too darn hot,
It's too darn hot.
PAUL:
I'd like to stop for my baby tonight,
And blow my top with my baby tonight.
I'd like to stop for my baby tonight,
And blow my top with my baby tonight,
But I'd be a flop with baby tonight,
'Cause it's too darn hot.
PAUL AND BOYS:
It's too darn hot,
It's too darn hot.
PAUL:
I'd like to fool with my baby tonight,
Break ev'ry rule with my baby tonight.
PAUL AND BOYS:
I'd like to fool with my baby tonight,
Break ev'ry rule with my baby tonight,
PAUL:
But, pillow, you'll be my baby tonight,
'Cause it's too darn hot.
PAUL AND BOYS:
According to the Kinsey Report
Ev'ry average man you know
Much prefers to play his favorite sport
When the temperature is low,
But when the thermometer goes 'way up
And the weather is sizzling hot,
PAUL:
Mister Adam
For his madam.
Is not,
PAUL AND BOYS:
'Cause it's too, too
Too darn hot,
It's too darn hot,
It's too darn hot.
PAUL:
It's too darn hot,
It's too darn hot.
I'd like to call on my baby tonight,
And give my all to my baby tonight.
PAUL AND BOYS:
I'd like to call on my baby tonight,
And give my all to my baby tonight.
PAUL:
But I can't play ball with baby tonight,
'Cause it's too darn hot.
PAUL AND BOYS:
It's too darn hot,
It's too darn hot.
PAUL:
I'd like to meet with my baby tonight,
Get off my feet, mm, with my baby tonight.
PAUL AND BOYS:
I'd like to meet with my baby tonight,
Get off my feet with my baby tonight.
PAUL:
But no repeat with baby tonight,
'Cause it's too darn hot.
PAUL AND BOYS:
It's too darn hot,
It's too darn hot.
PAUL:
I'd like to coo to my baby tonight,
And pitch the woo with my baby tonight.
PAUL AND BOYS:
I'd like to coo to my baby tonight,
And pitch the woo with my baby tonight.
PAUL:
But, pillow, you'll be my baby tonight,
'Cause it's too darn hot.
PAUL AND BOYS:
According to the Kinsey Report
Ev'ry average man you know
Much prefer to play his favorite sport
When the temperature is low,
But when the thermometer goes 'way up
And the weather is sizzling hot,
PAUL:
Mister Gob
For his squab.
A marine,
For his queen.
A G.I.
For his cutie-pie
Is not,
PAUL AND BOYS:
'Cause it's too, too
Too darn hot,
It's too darn hot,
It's too, too, too, too darn hot.
LOIS:
Oh, Bill,
Why can't you behave?
Why can't you behave?
How in hell can you be jealous
When you know, baby, I'm your slave?
I'm just mad for you,
And I'll always be,
But naturally
If a custom-tailored vet
Asks me out for something wet,
When the vet begins to pet, I cry "Hooray!"
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
I enjoy a tender pass
By the boss of Boston, Mass.,
Though his pass is middle-class and notta Backa Bay.
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
There's a madman known as Mack
Who is planing to attack,
If his mad attack means a Cadillac, okay!
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
I've been asked to have a meal
By a big tycoon in steel,
If the meal includes a deal, accept I may.
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
I could never curl my lip
To a dazzlin' diamond clip,
Though the clip meant "let 'er rip," I'd not say "Nay!"
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
There's an oil man known as Tex
Who is keen to give me checks,
And his checks, I fear, mean that sex is here to stay!
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
From Ohio Mister Thorne
Calls me up from night 'til morn,
Mister Thorne once cornered corn and that ain't hay.
Aha!
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
From Milwaukee Mister Fritz
Often moves me to the Ritz,
Mister Fritz is full of Schlitz and full of play.
But I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion,
Yes, I'm always true to you, darlin', in my way.
Mister Harris, plutocrat,
Wants to give my cheek a pat,
If the Harris pat
Means a Paris hat,
Bébé, Oo-la-la!
Mais je suis toujour fidèle, darlin', in my fashion,
Oui, je suis toujour fidèle, darlin', in my way.
"'It is an amusing idea, Charlie,' said Dukes, 'that sex is just another form of talk, where you act the words instead saying them...Sex might be a sort of normal, physical conversation between a man and a woman (sorry, can't control Lawrence's notions of sex)...'
'If you have the proper sort of emotion or sympathy with a woman, you ought to sleep with her,' said May, 'It's the only decent thing to do, to go to bed with her. Just as, when you are interested talking to someone, the only decent thing to do is have the talk out. You don't prudishly put you teeth between your tongue and bite it.'"
The link I posted for the Sex Offenders board worked in my room, but when i tried to access it from the library it didnt.
So, just in case it didnt work, here is the main page for the website:
http://www.meganslaw.state.pa.us/soab/site/default.asp
hope there arent any problems accessing it! :)
This Thursday we will be meeting to discuss sex within the "media", but we're hoping to run class a little differently.
We're not assigning heavy reading, only suggesting one to help structure our discussion. Check out this really short article on the web at Sex Etc. on-line: http://www.sxetc.org/library/genLibArticle.asp?CategoryID=1286&ArticleID=art_1369
Bring in at least 1-2 examples of sex in the "media". Please make one a visual example that you actually bring to class, but be as creative as you can with the others. Think outside of the box. Surprise us. We dare you! Be thinking about your definition of "media" and how your examples are located within this definition.
We've thought of questions and topics to discuss, but we're not going to post them here, because we do not want to limit your thinking. We're hoping that you'll push the limits of your own ideas, bringing unique perspectives to the issue, and pushing one another into a rich discussion.
These are our only requests. Think of it as minimal preparation, for maximum thought!
Smooches,
Annie Sprinkle El-Youssef
Monica Lewinisky Mendell
Candida Royale Teel
Barbara Walters Phillips
Britney Spears Lucaciu
About marriage as being a legalized form of prostitution. Can it really be conceived that way today? What about the legalization of same-sex marriages, for example? Does this merely expand the ideas of the popular imaginations idea of prostitution? Or what? What does it mean in today's contemporary society--someone posted that everyone gasped when this was stated--do people think it's true? It seems to me that the idea of marriage being a legalized form of prostitution was dramatic rhetoric in the heydey of Second Wave Feminism because marriage hadn't been conceived or imagined as such...but now? Is this rhetoric necessary in our contemporary lives, or is it just an overused phrase that is a stereotype catchphrase in the lexicon of the popular imagination's idea of a "feminist?"
I guess the thing we're trying to figure out in our course, as we figure out where we fit in as Third Wave feminists living in an imperfect world, is what can we DO about it? I mean, we can talk about the government, and misogynism, but what can we do to better our world? Marriages and domestic partnerships exist...the government exists...and if we're going to be living in this world and making an active difference, can we afford to be on its fringes with dusty rhetoric from the 1960's...?
Thanks a lot for letting us post, this forum is really cool (we don't have anything like it)
Baby, when were grinding,
I get so excited, you know that I like it
I try but I can't hide it, oh you're dancing real close
and real real slow, you're making it hard for me.
None of these words are sexual but the understanding of the chorus and the words put together bring about a sexual message. There are also some songs that don't imply any sexual message whatsoever but are sexual. I do agree with Elisa that it is the rhythm and beat that makes it sexual. One of the songs that I really like and feel that has a sexual beat is "So fresh, So clean" by Outkast. I do not know the lyrics but maybe there are some sexual words or whatnot but the beat itself is very sexual!
Here is John Berger's answer to Kathryn's question, "When we interact with sex in the media, is it an experience of wanting to have the expeience in the image we see, either by being the image ourselves, or having the image?" In Ways of Seeing Berger says,
"The purpose of publicity is to make the spectator marginally dissatisfied with his present way of life. Not with the way of life of society, but with his own within it. It suggests that if he buys what it is offering, his life will become better. It offers him an improved alternative to what he is....Publicity is addressed to those who constitute the market, to the spectator-buyer who is also the consumer-producer from whom profits are made twice over--as worker and then as buyer.
All publicity works upon anxiety. The sum of everything is money, to get money is to overcome anxiety. Alternatively the anxiety on which publicity plays is the fear that having nothing you will be nothing...money is the token of, and the key to, every human capacity. The power to spend money is the power to live.....
Publicity increasingly uses sexualtiy to sell any product or service. But this sexualtiy is never free in itself; it is a symbol for something presumed to be larger than it: the good life in which you can buy whatever you want. To be able to buy is the same thing as being sexually desirable....
For publicity the present is by definition insufficent...Its essential application is not to reality but to daydreams." (142-146)
Anne
This then raises the question of how the media excludes:
-disabled people
-people of color
-gay people
-poor people
-any one that is a size 8 or above
-any one over the age of, say 30 or 40 years old
... from being perceived as sexual beings.
I was happy to see that after raising these problematic elements
surrounding the media, that our class discussion then steered its way into
talking about how the media uses sex as a tool to sell itself/ its
message/ a product.
However, at the end of class, when the Polaroids were presented containing
images of media found in the rooms of the students in our class, my
discomfort was raised again to a higher level.
I asked why a picture of my room wasn't taken. A lot of students in the
class thought I was asking this due to the fact that I was insulted
somehow, as if I felt my room was perceived as "not sensual or sexy." A
lot of people then said side comments to me such as "don't worry Elisa, I
think your room is very sensual." That was not the response I was trying
to raise or the question I was trying to have answered.
The response I got from the student leaders who were taking the pictures
was: "because we were taking pictures of things that were media in
people's rooms."
Now, and this is for those students, I noticed that the contents of the
pictures you took contained images of posters, magazine pages that had
been ripped out and tacked on a wall. If you were looking to take pictures
of "things in the media," why did you guys ask me if you could take a
picture of me and my friend lying in bed? This, my friends, is not media
according to the other pictures you took in other peoples rooms.
However, you were bold enough to ask if you could take a picture of us.
Why? Were you looking to suggest something sexually explicit? Did you
even realize that you would have been objectifying me as a sexual object
to our whole class? (which completely contradicts the sentiments
expressed in the article you posted for us to read)
Secondly, why wasn't a picture of my room taken to serve as an example of
someone in our class that does not choose to surround themselves with
(what you have defined as) media images?
For the class: One of the two students who was going around was pointing
out certain things to be photographed in my room that could be grouped
into a loose interpretation of what is "sex in the media." However, the
second student shook her head and rejected every one of her suggestions.
I assume that she considered the materials in my room were either a) not
considered media or b) not considered sexual. To this second student who
felt the need to reject the objects in my room, I urge you to expand and
redefine what you consider media and what you consider sexual, especially
considering how our class was defining media today.
I raise these questions not because I am offended that my things were not
the object of desire for you or your camera, but more out of
disappointment that you were working with such a narrow view of sexuality,
sensuality, and media, and what I interpreted as your unwillingness to
challenge and/ or expand that.
The non-technical words we have for body parts, functions and actions (i.e. sex) are lowbrow, impolite, derogatory, or contain a note of scandal. There is a hierarchy within the English language (and others) of what is permissible to discuss, and this keeps talk of the body out of polite (socially acceptable) conversation. The body and the physical aren¡¯t as worthy of discussion as the mind and the abstract. The body and its doings are equated with vulgarity and obscenity. Since this is combined with patriarchical attitudes, is it any wonder why it is that we don¡¯t a) call women ¡°cocksuckers¡± and b) call men ¡°sluts?¡± These reversals of insults would imply that a) it¡¯s unacceptable for a woman to orally pleasure a man, and b) that men do not deserve sexual freedom; ideas both very foreign to mainstream mentality. Reclaiming words and creating new ones are methods for asserting the ability to define and understand. But this means exerting power, which would mean cultural upheaval, which would unbalance the patriarchy. Too bad this hasn¡¯t happened to a greater degree!
--Sharon Burgmayer and I visited Athena yesterday evening (en route home from the provost's sherry hour) and were delighted to see my/her contribution to our collage @ her feet.
--Would those of you who took notes about "the definition of media" in class on Thursday please post those definitions? I found that exercise very helpful and would (as always) very much like to have it archived here.
--I'm particularly interested in having a record of those definitions, because I think they work as excellent framing devices for the questions Elisa raised in class and then again in her posting, about what counts both as "media" and as "sexual." HY and Emily's going exploring late Wednesday night for "images of sex in the media" in people's room was entirely w/in the exploratory nature of this class, and I applaud them for doing so. As in all explorations, all emergent systems, going looking in this way means, inevitably, that you'll end up questioning, and then revising, the categories which impelled you in the first place. And this questioning has EVERYTHING to do w/ the themes of this course: sex, language, sex-in-language, sex-as-language. To capture images of how sex in the media is used in people's rooms is only the initial, data-gathering aspect of the project; to interpret those images--to consider, for instance, as Risa suggested, that they may be ironic--is an essential second step. To ask, as Elisa asks above, what the operative definition of sexual and of media was--both going into the foray and coming out of it--are essential third and fourth steps. Are lace curtains and beautiful quilts "media," or evidence of the absence of the need for sexualized media? Are friends in bed together media, or evidence of the absence of the need for media? I'd very much like to hear Emily and HY--but also of course everyone else engaged in this course--speak to these queries.
Thank you all, for keeping me thinking--and not just about sex.
Anne
Definition of Media: (as best recalled from my group) Something that is created in order to inspire, encourage, or inform a very large populus (uncountable), which may be replicated, and as a work has an expiration point (could still be reffered to in the past, but not with same meaning).
I also wanted to pose my thoughts about the discussion that was had on thursday. I think i was diappointed with the selections that were chosen to show sex in the media as far as the movie (boys don't cry) exerpt and music video (madonna vogue)were concerned.
Though the seen from the movie was interesting. I would have liked to talk more about how sex is portrayed in the media, the scene is an example of how unimportant ones sexual orientation/gender is but yet it was expressed that it was chosen because it wasn't the norm. I think it would have been more interesting to talk about the music, the cinematography effects of the orgasm, the noises made, the eyes rolling back in the head, all those things that media is able to use in order to glorify (not sure if thats the word i want) the physical act of sex. I think the "girl talk" part of the clip was so extremely relevant to the class, that i wish we could have talked about the woman's choice not to tell her friends v. spilling all the details.
The music video choice i found slightly problematic. The video itself i didn't find that sexy at all. I think that the elements of "sex" that i saw when i did watch it, were more or less me putting the sex into the clip. Madonna has been idolized as a sexual icon. The iconization that she has gone through and the sexiness which has become her, i felt tainted the experience. Was this video sexy because it was just sexy or was this video sexy because Madonna, who is now built up into the paragon of a sexual being, is in the video?
The idea of what is sex in the media is interesting...because it is such a topic of debate, whats appropriate for prime time v. family time television. How are those lines created? are they blurrier then we think? i remeber asking my father once the difference between a PG-13 movie and an R movie, and i remember him replying quite calmly "a nipple." Is that the line that is drawn between adult content and child content? This then begins to question the explicit v. implicit sex in the media. For example in lion king when the lions are roughhousing in the dust, and the dust clouds spell out s-e-x.
My biggest issue with sex in the media is that 99% of it is portrayed as so flawless; the heterosexual ideal. Somehow, in every cinematic romantic coupling, the people having sex are so incredibly sexually compatible that each love scene resolves with both parties having the perfect orgasm--simultaneously, of course. Even in the clip of Boys Don't Cry that we watched in class, the (I'm blanking on the actress' name) blonde woman looks like that one climax is the best experience of her life. That's great- maybe the audience of America likes to experience a kind of fantasy in scenes like this- but I wonder what percentage of the audience can actually relate to such flawless sex? Where are the painful little mistakes, the frustrations, the small failures that real life sex presents? Certainly not in the movies. The media is pretty powerful when it comes to sex- it is pretty much the only time we can actually watch other people engaging in intimate activity without being an intruder or paying a lot of money. I think a large part of the population has a sexual ideal that pretty much matches up to what is portrayed in the movies. So then what they do in bed becomes a "performance." God forbid a guy can't "perform" like Brad Pitt...or Hilary Swank for that matter.
I guess what I'm asking is, wouldn't people be a little happier with their sex lives if the media were more honest about how sex really is?
CD 1: Ocean Surf
1. Ocean Surf
2. No Sex in the Champagne Room 1Ž2Chris Rock
3. Vagina Song 1Ž2Monty Python
4. Fuck her Gently 1Ž2Tenacious D
5. Touch-A Touch-A Touch Me 1Ž2Rocky Horror
6. Pretty Piece of Flesh 1Ž2One Inch Punch
7. Pretty when you're Drunk
8. Get Ur Freak On (remix) 1Ž2Missy Elliot
9. Peaches n Cream (remix) 1Ž2112
10.I Wanna Lick You 1Ž2Ludacris
11.Shoop 1Ž2Salt n Peppa
12.Sexual Healing 1Ž2Marvin Gaye
13.Crush 1Ž2DMB
14.Make Love to You 1Ž2Bad Company
15.All My Love 1Ž2Led Zeppelin
16.More then Words 1Ž2Extreme
17.I'll make Love to You 1Ž2Boys2Men
18.Piya Re 1Ž2Nusrah Fatah Ali Khan
19. Ocean Surf
Thinking Sex CD 2: Thunderstorm
1. Thunderstorm
2. Night and Day 1Ž2Ella Fitzgerald
3. Shave 'Em Dry 1Ž2Lucille Bogan
4. Fever 1Ž2Peggy Lee
5. Come & get your Love 1Ž2Redbone
6. Cecilia 1Ž2Simon & Garfunkle
7. I Touch Myself 1Ž2The Divinyls
8. Mouth 1Ž2Merril Bainbridge
9. Your Body is a Wonderland1Ž2John Mayer
10.Sexual Healing 1Ž2Ben Harper
11.Leather 1Ž2Tori Amos
12.Tu 1Ž2Sarah Brightman
13.Feelin' Love 1Ž2Paula Cole
14.Debra 1Ž2Beck
15.Sin wagon 1Ž2Dixie Chicks
16.Turn Me On 1Ž2Norah Jones
17.Besame Mucho 1Ž2Cesaria Evora
18.Take our Time 1Ž2TLC
19.Any time, any Place 1Ž2Janet Jackson
20.Thunderstorm
If anyone would like copies of either of these CDs, I'd be happy to make them for you! Just email me or let me know in class! See everyone on the morrow!
And if I have prophetoc powers,
And understand all mystics and all knowledge,
And if I have all faith so as to move mountains but have no love I am nothing
1 corith, 13, 2 (letters of Paul)
for anyone who has time, the whole reading really is beautiful. Here Paul isn't really talkning about the love between lovers, but hey, it works.
Priestly Duties
One Sunday morning, a priest wakes up and decides to go golfing. He calls his boss and says that he feels very sick, and won't be able to go to work.
Way up in heaven, Saint Peter sees all this and asks God, ''Are you really going to let him get away with this?''
''No, I guess not,'' says God.
The priest drives about five to six hours away, so he doesn't bump into anyone he knows. The golf course is empty when he gets there. So he takes his first swing, drives the ball 495 yards away and gets a hole in one.
Saint Peter watches in disbelief and asks, '' Why did you let him do that?''
To this God says, ''Who's he going to tell?''