Community Forum
Feb. 24, 2004
Notes from Group A
Participants in Group
Bill: Architect-Grew up in the neighborhood-Attended U Penn and
has two degrees
Dolli: Secretary with the Spruce Hill Civic Association-Post-Doctorate
at U Penn
Bob: Redevelopment interests
Matt: Graduate architect student-Spends a lot of time on 40th Street
John: Clean and Safe Program director with the University and city
Glenn: Was a student at U Penn-Long time employee of U Penn-Owns
several properties in area-Volunteer in the community
John Mc: Arts and Culture of the area-Works for the university-On
the Board of the Philadelphia Dance Company
Clifton: Family business in the corridor-Family connections are
living here
Michael: Resident-Teacher
Debbie: Bookstore owner in area-Pianist-Resident
Jim: Resident-Treasurer Spruce Hill Civic Association-Owns property
in the area
Voices not participating in this group
Commuters/Transient people through the transportation hub-hack
stand/bus and trolley
Homeless
Families of West Philly neighborhood
Students of public schools
Elderly
Section 8 and Fair housing projects
Question #1
Who are the users of 40th Street?
Eaters
Arts/Culture Attendees
Elderly
Section 8 Residents
Shoppers for groceries
Students
University/Institutional Employees
Retail Employees
Elwyn Institute
Patients - hospital/dental
Readers - library
Commuters
Transitory/Impermanent - students
Students - elementary/middle/high
Construction Workers
Police Officers - University & City
Walkers
Moviegoers
Homeless
Church Attendees - St. Mary's, St. Josephs
Post Office traffic
Dental students
People with pets- pet store
Question # 2
What uses of 40th Street - past, present, future - do you find most
interesting or exciting?
Past Uses
This question created a lot of conversation about the types of
stores and activities that had been a part of 40th Street but had
left for a variety of reasons (see #3 below).
The 2 examples cited most often were Marty's (You can find EVERYTHING
at Marty's) and a jazz club. Others cited were - Uni-Mart, service
station, entertainment/club.
There was a real sense of loss over Marty's for the convenience
of finding "just what you needed right in the neighborhood"
and over the jazz club for the entertainment and ambiance/culture
it provided.
Present Uses
Restaurants
Coffee Places
Bars
Arts/Performance/Culture Areas
Postal Service
Library
Travel Agency
Pet Store
Fresh Grocer
News Stand
Street Fairs
Future Uses
Marty's or a clone of Marty's (household everyday needs)
Street Fairs/Performances
Live Music
More Greenery
Community Center as a resource for kids and families - 1 stop shopping
for families
Events for kids after school
Question # 3
What factors make those uses more difficult?
The participants felt that the factors which created difficulties
were the same or similar for past, present and future.
Factors-
*The boundaries of the U. of Penn moved into the 40th Street area
and that caused businesses/activities to be dislodged.
*Changing Demographics
*The cost of doing business rose and along with pricing competition
drove some businesses out
*Other stores began providing the same services at lower prices
*Security/Safety issues and Drug Use issues affected some areas
*This area is not 'user-friendly' to an outsider, signage is poor
*Street Intersections are not well planned, not walker-friendly
nor visually appealing
*Transportation needs to bring people into the heart of this area,
taxi problems in certain areas
*The area is not walkable
*The area is not kid-friendly
*There is not a stable business plan to help ensure long-term stability
and growth
Question # 4
As you think of all of the above, what principles do you think ought
to guide the development of 40th Street?
Community Meetings Practice-Establish an on going practice for
occasions like this one with more attention to getting the unorganized
and other groups involved, holding the occasions in their "neck
of the woods." Specifically, to reach across divides-age, economic,
race, and all potential business owners.
Communicating Network-Develop a network and means for quick communication
to everyone about the work of these meetings and future ones
Transportation-Bring people in to area, develop attractions such
as a trolley loop with an old Philly trolley car. Some tension in
this one with regard to whether we want a lot of people in the area
Pedestrian Scale-Encourage and design for a pedestrian scale "tissue"
that connects
the people in the community to the street-scape -40TH and Locust
is particularly problematic
Support Locally Owned Businesses-Long term commitment to locally
owned businesses with a stable building plan-Rent and conditions
reviewed as important consideration
Space Utilization-Utilize all space, not just street level floors-plan
and seek out 2nd floor and above occupancy
24/7 Plan-Understand that there are different needs for different
segments of the day and maintain or build a productive use for each
time segment of day
Kid Friendly-Develop spaces, activities, and stores
Night-life-Develop this area, there was one in the past
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