Forum 6 - Ending Week One l ...
Name: Paul Grobstein
Username: pgrobste@brynmawr.edu
Subject: almost half way through ...
Date: 2003-07-10 22:00:37
Message Id: 5916
Comments:
Outputs without input or prior experience? Everything one experiences as patterns of action potentials? Experience limited by sensory neurons, which may vary among individuals? Having information without knowing one has it or where it came from? Two minds (at least)?
How we doing? Do you think differently than you did on Monday about science? about brains? about education? In what ways, and where should we go next?
Name: Regina Toscani
Username: reginatoscani@hotmail.com
Subject: Friday morning's entry
Date: 2003-07-11 09:36:14
Message Id: 5918
Comments:
Concerning the sensory neurons that provides information from the body to the CNS- if people had different levels of the external senses (i.e. some people have better eyesight, better sense of smell, etc.) do some people have higher levels of receiving internal information? Would this account for different threshold of pain? If so, would disorders such as fibromyalgia (which involves the person experiencing pain with no apparent physical cause) have a neurological component?
Name: Randal Holly
Username: kr092389@aol.com
Subject: Kim Cassidy Session
Date: 2003-07-11 09:38:16
Message Id: 5919
Comments:
I found it particularly interesting to note that excelling or performing inadequately at a stated activity has played such a vital role in my social and intellectual development. It has made me look harder at how mainstream America, myself included, inappropriately compartmentalizes its constituents based on performance at particular activities. Perhaps, it is easier for "us" to reach a consensus on where a person "fits" in society if we keep to this practice of placing everyone at some point along a performance continuum. The discussion served as an excellent springboard for the reading, or revisiting, of the "Culture of Disability" article.
Name:
Username: Anonymous
Subject: reflections of Thurs.
Date: 2003-07-11 09:40:54
Message Id: 5920
Comments:
I appreciated the thought provoking comments from the participants. It was good to observe my behavior in response to John's comments, as a reminder not to get stuck on making other's comments "personal".
I am starting to feel a bit more comfortable learning about the science of the brain. I am looking forward to more discussion of the culture article, since it was so rich with controversial ideas. Also, What's next in the workings of the neurons. Can't wait to hear about depression too.
Name: Joyce Theriot
Username: jtheriot
Subject: Brain Drain
Date: 2003-07-11 09:41:26
Message Id: 5921
Comments:
I'm thinking I may present information to my students via the Serendip site about how their brain works and perhaps start the year in a similar way that KC did the other day. I'll collect information about the students using the same organizer and then begin a discussion about the "multiple intelligences" of each individual. Even though I'm in physics and physical science this will serve as a great opener for all of us. It will give me greater insights into my students and I hope give my students an awareness that it's ok to follow your talents and that everyone is good at something.
In addition, although I resisted using the cumbersome HTML language for my website, I am changing my mind and thinking that this is a GOOD skill to develop.
Name: Antoinette
Username: tonisisco@aol.com
Subject: July 10, 2003
Date: 2003-07-11 09:43:59
Message Id: 5922
Comments:
As educucatiors we are very concerned about the rate and accuuracy of students "learning" the cumulative base of 'culturally relevant knowledge.'
Often we present things as if it is the only possible way of presenting that info. How often have elem. teachers told students that there is nothing to the left of zero on the number line, only for those same students to learn about negative numbers later in middle school. When we teach "This is an 'A'", we by default teach that this is the only way to make one.....
How many other times have we as teachers done this to our students?
Name:
Username: Anonymous
Subject: addendum
Date: 2003-07-11 09:44:32
Message Id: 5923
Comments:
Note # 5920 was from Linda Slattery
Name: Angie
Username: Anonymous
Subject: Thoughts
Date: 2003-07-11 09:45:29
Message Id: 5924
Comments:
Prior to Monday I thought that my mind controlled everything that I did. I believed that My left hand did not move until without coordination from my brain. By the end of the day, I realized that I had "two minds." Since then, I have been thinking about Christopher Reeves and what he must go through on a daily basis. I have been trying to put myself in his place.
As they say that you learn something new each day. Knowing that we have more than five senses makes sense when knowing what a Propieceptor is and all that it is capable of doing.
Name: shellie
Username: Anonymous
Subject: day 4
Date: 2003-07-11 09:45:33
Message Id: 5925
Comments:
I did not read as yet all those nice comments that Paul left us because I was on a time constraint.
I can't believe how exciting it is to learn someting new. Yesterday I learned how to do someting on the computer with the help of Nia. If only we could capture this with the children that we teach.
Name: John Dalton
Username: JD5258875
Subject: achieving a non-disabling culture
Date: 2003-07-11 09:45:51
Message Id: 5926
Comments:
Inherent within some of what we have learned about organisms is the idea that the majority of our behavior is determined. In fact there seems to have been a gradual shift of the entire nature/nurture paradigm during my lifetime in favor of nature, at the expense of free will. Given that, I find it unrealistic to think that we can create a non-disabling culture. It may be a worthy ideal.
Name: Linda M
Username: Anonymous
Subject: fri AM
Date: 2003-07-11 09:46:12
Message Id: 5927
Comments:
re maternalization
There is a very good book called "Men and Women in Converstion-You Just Don't Understand" by Deborah Tannen or Tannenbaum (I think the Mars and Venus guy used her work. Her sociological studies found that men and women really do converse differently, examples being that men in convertion compete and offer each other solutions unsolicited or not; women nurture and comfort and come to consenses. Women in groups of men report that the men treated them "rougher" because they are women, when to neutral observaters, it turns out the men were actually treating them like they would another man.
Name: Julie
Username: Anonymous
Subject: Comments
Date: 2003-07-11 09:47:15
Message Id: 5928
Comments:
I've always believed in letting kids discover as much about themselves as possible- figure out their strengths and work with them but also know what their weaknesses are and work through them. I like giving kids Learning Style inventories so that they can discover these qualities about themselves regardless of a special education label.
Name: Randal Holly
Username: kr092389@aol.com
Subject: Action Potentials
Date: 2003-07-11 09:47:15
Message Id: 5929
Comments:
The notion that organisms can demonstrate certain outputs without inputs or any prior experience should not be confusing to anyone. People have long since realized that organisms perform in this manner. One only has to consider various animal's immediate ability to not only wish to walk, but to walk period after only a short period of practice. Consider bird's not having to be "taught" how to make a nest.
Will continue this thought later
Name: Sheila
Username: Anonymous
Subject:
Date: 2003-07-11 09:47:39
Message Id: 5930
Comments:
I know that the nervous system is made of boxes with smaller boxes with neurons and axon potential to initiate response from input. NOW, sensory nuerons effect axons in other nuerons and the the activity goes in the brain. How does this help scientist with people who are developmentally slow--autism, down syndrom, etc. What stimuli can correct these boxes being charged?
Name: Mo
Username: Anonymous
Subject: Special
Date: 2003-07-11 09:48:27
Message Id: 5932
Comments:
I have a special education godchild that believes he can do everything. It is hard trying to help him because he doesn't like to read. When he does things well he is proud of himself. He is on a first grade reading level at the age of nineteen. Is it too late? Help!M
Name: Lois
Username: loismackey@yahoo.com
Subject: Still Exploring
Date: 2003-07-11 09:50:47
Message Id: 5933
Comments:
I am still stuck questioning and seeking some answers in the "two mind" mode.If this other mind is the " unconscienious mind" and we are able to tape into it unknowingly,then is there way a way to go there at ones own free will?
I ask that question because it is my belief that I myself have tape into this unconscienios mode on numerious occassions, and yet have been unable to get there when in a conscienious mode. I was a 4.0 student at Drexel for almost two years, yet when I became conscieniously aware, my grade went down a little, and I felt burned out.
Hopefully,
Name: Pam
Username: Anonymous
Subject:
Date: 2003-07-11 10:44:10
Message Id: 5934
Comments:
During yesterday's discussion I was reminded about an undergraduate experience which involved a verbal debate. The debate between an instructor and student was about society decision makers. The instructor noted that students earning degrees from Yale,Penn,and Harvard were the elite class who controlled(became presidents) and Temple, Drexel students were general workers. I question if earning a degree in this society is important so that social change can occur. Also, if there are society classifications based on an institutional name why encourage everyone to attend. Remember the Bush- Gore campaign?
Name: Pam
Username: Anonymous
Subject:
Date: 2003-07-11 10:44:18
Message Id: 5935
Comments:
During yesterday's discussion I was reminded about an undergraduate experience which involved a verbal debate. The debate between an instructor and student was about society decision makers. The instructor noted that students earning degrees from Yale,Penn,and Harvard were the elite class who controlled(became presidents) and Temple, Drexel students were general workers. I question if earning a degree in this society is important so that social change can occur. Also, if there are society classifications based on an institutional name why encourage everyone to attend. Remember the Bush- Gore campaign?
Name: Antoinette
Username: tonisisco@aol.com
Subject: Observation
Date: 2003-07-11 13:22:17
Message Id: 5936
Comments:
This morning,someone erased the board, and we did not receive the infor to begin adding to the forum. My question is in our society that tends to evaluate different as better or worse/ more or less powerful...Who then had more power to alter our behavior, Paul or the mystery cleaner? When it comes to the medical profession, who has more 'power' the doctor of the scheduling secratary? Maybe we should consider an inter-dependent rather than better/worse teaching/ learning model.
Sorry to miss the morning disccussion, I am looking forward to reading about it on the forum.
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