Biology 361 = Computer Science 361
When I think of emergence, I feel like I have to "change my glasses" (not that I wear them) and put on something that makes the world fresh again. Something that gives me back that sense of wonder that we all had when we were children. ... Julia_Ferraioli
When I try to explain the emergence course to my friends I start with the idea that simple rules lead to great solutions ... Stephanie Hilton
"The line between living organisms and machines has just become a whole lot blurrier ..." I heard this headline on the way in to school yesterday morning and dug up this link to it. Sounds pretty exciting ... Also, I thought one of the pictures was interesting.. have a look at the snail neurons.. is that why netlogo calls them turtles? ... Leslie
A Depression Switch
I saw this article on Slashdot today touting the "first digital simulation of an entire life form," ... What I found particularly interesting was the discussion that ensued on Slashdot: many of the posters touched on themes that have come up repeatedly in class. Several tackled the more philosophical "What is life?" question and asked whether or not a life form that exists solely in a virtual context can be "alive." Some argued for and others against, but a sizable contingent argued for the idea that "life is not a binary distinction"--that is, there is a continuum of "life" along which some things are more alive than others. I thought that this concept dovetailed quite nicely with some of our earlier class discussions ... Jesse
I am not convinced at all that there is a significant amount of emergent activity in Spore. There is a lot of talk in the gaming press about the "evolution" in Spore and so on, but it is not really evolution at all! If you watch the video, it shows that as time passes you gain "evolution points" which allow you to change your creature by adding limbs or increasing its speed. That does not sound like evolution to me. It sounds more like intelligent design, which is essentially the opposite of emergence ... DavidRosen (see also Julia and Josh)
During Monday's lecture Professor Blank told us about a split into two separate approaches to studying artificial intelligence. The split is between the rational models and emergent models. Professor Blank writes that "These two paradigms, in my opinion, have little to do with one another. That is, emergent models can certainly show rational, rule-like behavior. But the implementation of emergent models have nothing to do with how rational models operate." ... I don't understand how this dichotomy is possible! I agree that emergent models can show logical "rational" behavior ... However, I feel like rational models could have a role in the implementation of emergent models. The only reason I can seem to find to support this intuition is the way in which I imagine the human brain works. It seems to me that the brain is a rational model of neurons which calculate and makes decisions, while the way in which we experience consciousness is an emergent phenomena resulting from the rational model of these neurons ... LauraKasakoff
You make a good point when you point out that (and here I paraphrase) I need a rational system to write the computer program in order to implement my emergent neural network. But the level of the computer doesn't have much to do with the level of the neural network. Likewise, the level of the neural network doesn't have anything to do with logic, or even "making decisions". All the network level is doing is adding, multiplying, and number squashing ... What the two systems do have in common is their behavior. Both can compute the same "functions". Maybe one does it through a lookup table, the other by adding, multiplying, and squashing. The network goes through a level of nodes and numbers. This is the level that does the actual "thinking". In the lookup table, there is no other level. ... This is a critical difference, I think. You could say that neurons are being rational and deciding to make decisions. But the level that they are acting is at a different level than what they are actually computing ... Another way to say this is that I think Einstein would make a really lousy neuron. Why? Because he would be thinking about whether he should fire or not based on trying to make sense of the signals around him. But the "sense" isn't made at this level, but at level above this one---the network that Albert would be embedded in. It emerges from the network of the micro-Eisteins' interactions ... So, a system that computes "emergently" (or, as David says, "subsymbolically") computes below the level of the meaning. On the other hand, rational systems compute at the level of the meaning ... We should continue this discussion ... DougBlank
What are the relations among living organisms, machines, emergence, intelligent design, rational, logical, meaning, goals (purposes)? See what light brains and biological evolution shed on that question ...
Brains and machines
|The brain as a material entity
Modifiability: a useful distinction between two kinds of learning
Bipartite architecture: a useful (?) distinction between .... meaning/no meaning?
Brain is a machine (ie material) but is unlike any machine so far built by humans
Biological evolution from Darwin to the present (alternate):
evolution too can be directed (evolutionary algorithms, programming, see also Biomorph Breeder) but exists too in importantly undirected form ... biological evolution from Darwin to present
"We are all active and interacting entities in a long-standing exploration of possible forms of material organization which has been enriched by story-telling and agency" ... that are themselves characteristics of brains we all possess.
Re course projects: Don't worry so much about being "logical"/"rational" or finding "solutions". "... intelligent design ... is esentially the opposite of emergence". "Make the world fresh again". "Simple rules lead to ..." "something awesome". Play ... and THEN make "meaning".
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